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PostPosted: 17:30 - 24 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So, with the IMF predicting the UK will out perform Germany and France over the coming year, maybe you could invest in lesser performing EU countries, to make sure you earn less from your investments, whilst sticking 2 fingers up to the Leave camp at the same time?


The UK dropped a place in the world rankings... past France so how is that outperforming France? Every major economic body including the IMF predicts the UK is likely to go into a recession. That FT survey was depressing reading.

Do I go with the world's experts or believe you? Maybe you're secretly a Soros or some kind of autistic savant but I'm a tad sceptical.

When the entire world is shouting 'fire,' I reach for the fire extinguisher. Call me crazy because of it.
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 24 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

jjdugen wrote:
'What UK manufacturing is superior? Yes, we have some of the worlds best engineers and designers. But manufacturers, we are not any more.'


Er.... Rolls Royce springs to mind, JCB? The specialist steel manufacturers in Sheffield. Don't underestimate the racing car boys either, their tech is incorporated in many production vehicles.


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PostPosted: 23:44 - 24 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you a bit dim?

So you don't think a £200m contract is big?

Would love to see your balance sheet. Or you to actually read what you're replying to.
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 25 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
Jewlio Rides Again wrote:
Are you a bit dim?

So you don't think a £200m contract is big?

Would love to see your balance sheet. Or you to actually read what you're replying to.


I'm talking about large government military contracts, not "Boaty McFecking Boatface". Wink


The same government contracts where they still use EU sourced goods, because the British stuff can't be produced in time? Wink

Did you know that they've been replacing British parts with Spanish ones? Yep, even the bone idle Spanish can do the job quicker....
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 25 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
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The same government contracts where they still use EU sourced goods, because the British stuff can't be produced in time? Wink

Did you know that they've been replacing British parts with Spanish ones? Yep, even the bone idle Spanish can do the job quicker....


So buying the parts from abroad is nothing to do with EU procurement rules then is it?


No. They're not bought from abroad. They're bought from a UK company, but are manufactured abroad.

And here's me, thinking you may know what you're typing about...
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 25 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:

Boeing, Airbus etc, don't seem to think UK manufacturing is too shabby and I'm guessing they wont put up with tardiness or poor quality.


Companies like Airbus don't build things in the UK because of some great reputation for British manufacturing (which only exists in history books). They build the factory where they get the most favourable terms (best bribes) from the national or regional government.

The UK is good at high end research and design - but Brexit is already starting to fuck that up.
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 25 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can use both Boaty Mcboatface and the navy contracts. Both use the same stuff Wink

Because of the length of time it was taking to replace British manufactured components, the MOD would buy cheaper, Spanish stuff, and it's that good it doesn't need replacing. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 25 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jewlio Rides Again wrote:
So you don't think a £200m contract is big?

It's 262 skilled[*] workers for one year, or 26 and someone to vacuum the floors for a more realistic 10 years.

So, no, not big. It'd warrant a few powerpoint presentations and a chewing-gum-and-duct-tape pre-alpha demo until a real deal was signed. A startup might run itself into bankruptcy and default on a whole bunch of creditors chasing it.

[*] Engineers are typically expected to gross $1M per year. The long thick trailing shaft of the spear, you're welcome.


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The UK is good at high end research and design - but Brexit is already starting to fuck that up.

Oh noes. Who's deaded?
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 25 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
Jewlio Rides Again wrote:
Can use both Boaty Mcboatface and the navy contracts. Both use the same stuff Wink

Because of the length of time it was taking to replace British manufactured components, the MOD would buy cheaper, Spanish stuff, and it's that good it doesn't need replacing. Thumbs Up


So, as I keep saying, you're one trick pony is Boaty McFekkin Boatface then.

Awesome example to pick. I bow down to your knowledge.


No, my one trick pony isn't boaty mcboatface. It includes MOD supplies, as well as industry in the new energy markets, and, surprisingly enough, the epically delayed spare components are going to south America - nothing to do with the MOD.
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 25 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
You're not really the financial expert you pretend to be are you? You're expertise comes from the BBC and the Guardian.

The UK was barely ahead of France before the referendum on economic size, it briefly dropped below (to great glee from the Guardian). I should imagine, with a 12% increase in the FTSE100 and the IMF now changing tune, predicting the UK will out perform France and Germany, that your doom and gloom is like your sex life. Premature and purely in your head.

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How dare you accuse me of being a left-wing, sandal-wearing, low-earning, tree-hugging, liberal-loving, BBC-watching (Top Gear, old edition excepted), Guardian reader?

I'm a meat eating, money-earning, BMW-driving, home-owning, broadsheet-reading, right wing bastard who believes in making money. My ex-wife took me for more money than the average Brit earns in 15 years and Brexit will likely cost me more.

If someone says that they hate Johnny foreigner and want to give the UK a good cleansing, hang the cost, I get it. That's a choice and I can kinda accept someone wanting to lose money in return for having a less culturally diverse environment. I get it, I genuinely do.

However, the idea that the UK could be financially better off is just stupid when every, single economic body, every bank and every government globally is publicly stating, IMF included, that Brexit is damaging to the British economy. This is from a bunch of people who can't normally agree that night is darker than day, something that you'd also struggle with judging by the economic incoherence of your posts.
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 27 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

guys calm down Very Happy

The topic here is Brexit negotiations not engineers ok Laughing

Having said that here is the latest news: a former French minister will lead post-Brexit negotiations between the EU and Britain

https://uk.businessinsider.com/r-french-ex-commissioner-to-lead-eu-brexit-talks-2016-7?r=US&IR=T

He is very experienced and very right wing. Think of him as EU version of Davis Davies. You reap what you saw.

Mr Barnier previously infuriated British minsters with his calls for more financial regulation when he held the post of EU commissioner for internal markets and services between 2010 and 2014.
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 27 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Val wrote:
right wing [...] calls for more financial regulation

Non sequitur.

Looks like just another regulations-obsessed Statist determined to create institutions that are too big to fail. Plus ça change.

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PostPosted: 15:04 - 27 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jewlio Rides Again wrote:


The same government contracts where they still use EU sourced goods, because the British stuff can't be produced in time? Wink

Did you know that they've been replacing British parts with Spanish ones? Yep, even the bone idle Spanish can do the job quicker....


Britain's new aircraft carriers are over twice the size of the Spanish carrier. So yes, the UK does a MUCH better job at shipbuilding. Spain's submarines? Oh wait no, they use German submarines. The UK? Astute class submarines are nuclear powered (which Spain can't do) and are by far the most capable submarines in Europe. Destroyers? Britain made it's own, Spain imported all of it's radars and combat systems from the US. Britain wins by a mile, it's a total no contest.

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PostPosted: 16:08 - 27 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure why he thinks we are so dire at that lark, we are world class. And just like any manufacturing base, we have some damp squibs mixed in. What we are though is expensive.
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 27 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sload wrote:
I'm not sure why he thinks we are so dire at that lark, we are world class. And just like any manufacturing base, we have some damp squibs mixed in. What we are though is expensive.


well if you're making a decent profit, at a time you can be bothered to make the product, why chase arse to produce more, at a lower cost?

If you want to produce a commodity, expect to get nout for it

As we're the best, no one can match it, thus supply doesn't outstrip demand and prices here are high.

You might get the select few paper shuffling civil servants on here doing down British Industry, but it's their doings that puts the brakes on industry to thrive, thankfully brexit and the currency adjustment might just have saved port talbot and some heavy industry through this glut of steel on the market.
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 27 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully Global Warming Fantasy research ship Boaty McBoatface can be redepoloyed to more pressing issues as HMGS RefugeesNotWelcome and HMGS Farage.

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PostPosted: 21:43 - 27 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suspect you're trolling......
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