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SharpEnough
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Next 125 After Accident? Reply with quote

Alriiight, first time posting on here & just really looking for a bit of advice

27 & Been riding now for about 3 years & currently on my second CBT, finally passed my theory test about 3 months ago & had booked a DAS crash course with my test booked the end of last week

Low & behold about 6 weeks ago i had a pretty serious accident which i ended up in hospital for a week with a broken knee/concussion, basically i was overtaking a couple of cars on a road iv been down loads of times before, council decided to put a lovely new central reservation on, as i pulled out i hit at about 60 launching me & the bike down the road.
Luckily i cant remember a great deal as i was knocked out until the ambulance turned up.

The bike i had was a 06 CBR (with a 180 big bore on) would easily cruise at 75, i had 90 out of it a couple of times.
Someone then nicked the bike from the side of the road the following day, in a way probably a good job as if insurance assessed it or the officer that turned up knew anything about bikes i'd be pretty fucked.

Im now i'd say about 2 weeks away from finally being able to get back on the road & although i know i should just spend the money on the test again, i want to get some confidence again on a smaller bike for a few months at least.

Having that i could not bare going back to something like a CG or YBR & i think i'd be tempting fate having another with a big bore on.

Been doing my research & narrowed it down to a choice of three with a budget of about £1500

Yamaha YZF, Rieju RS3 or Hyosung GT125

Ideally i'd get the yamaha as i know they're quality but i'm gonna struggle to find one with my budget in decent condition.

Has anyone rode any of the other two or have any knowledge of them?

can't really find a great deal about them online apart from 17 year olds who get excited about anything that looks the part.

I know the hyosung is chinese but apparently the build quality is alot better?
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't really add to this. However, Hyosung are South Korean, not Chinese. I believe that they used to make engines for Suzuki before going solo.
My history of Asian bikes isn't fantastic though. Could easily be wrong.

Edit: Seems Hyosung used to make engines under license from Suzuki. Not *for* Suzuki. Details are sketchy, but they may have made components for Suzuki instead.


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PostPosted: 13:00 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

MTFU.

Get another proper bike.

Don't crash.

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PostPosted: 13:01 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure you weren't raging at the cars you were overtaking? Smile

I wouldn't go for any of those, RS3 I think has the R125 engine, which allegedly $hits itself within 30k. The Hyosung's a bit too rare.

If you want a big vtwin like the Hyosung then a Honda Varadero's a much better choice. Personally for something bang on the bhp limit I'd go for a Derbi Terra, same engine as the RS4, although its not a wannabe sports bike... which's a good thing Smile
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Re: Next 125 After Accident? Reply with quote

SharpEnough wrote:
Yamaha YZF, Rieju RS3 or Hyosung GT125

YZF. When you come to your senses and do your tests, it'll be easier to sell on.

The RS3 has an appalling reputation for reliability - good luck actually finding a running example, or selling it on if you do.

The Hyosung is Korean, not Chinese. It's properly big-bike sized, being based on a rip off of the GS500 frame. The build quality may be OK, but the parts aren't. Supply is a lottery, you're looking at salvage parts, or ordering from Korea.

I worked on a 6 year old one with: a terminally corroded swinging arm; terminally corroded exhaust which was seized hard in the head; corroded rims that were leaking air; terminally seized rear master cylinder; broken dash. None of the parts were cheap.

The engine itself is a lovely little thing: 11kW, two cylinders, four cams, eight valves (which we got to see when taking the head off to chisel out the remains of the exhaust), and ran like a watch, but it's still a 125 and struggled to drag the bike up to speed. It's a slug off the line, apparently 166kg dry, and feels it. The brand new one claims to be 120kg dry, although where they've trimmed 46kg is a mystery.

tl;dr version - none of the above, do your tests and get on the bike that you really want rather than the kid-on version of it.
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Ste
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

As above, do your test rather than getting another tiddler with L plates. Thumbs Up

(oh, and poor obs Razz )
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SharpEnough
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for the replies.

I get where you're coming from with just doing my test.

I am going to book it again, i just need to get some confidence riding again, iv not been able to walk for about 4 weeks nevermind get on a bike.

Even if i booked it today the test center around here is stupidly busy & i'd be looking at a month to 2 months.
I would still need something to get me to & from work in the meantime.

From what you guys have said I'd be best off just getting the yamaha by the sounds of it as i thought initially, i'll just have to fork out a little more or come across a bargain
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Ste
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Book through a training school and you'll be able to get a test slot sooner than that.
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SharpEnough
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Book through a training school and you'll be able to get a test slot sooner than that.


I did on the last one & the soonest was a month & a half away.

I live just outside Telford & i think the Shrewsbury test center covers alot of Mid wales plus the whole of shropshire which is why its so busy
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to Wolverhampton and the waiting list for mod 2 is one week. Wink

https://www.dft.gov.uk/fyn/practical.php?postcode=TF1+1AA&testtype=Motorcycle+Module+1

For mod 1 you'll be wanting to get a cancellation.

It's all possible, you've just got to find a way to make it possible rather than accepting a 6-8 week wait.
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're probably better off getting something like a YBR125 and toughing it out. You've ridden a big bike, so the difference in performance between a YZF and a YZF will be "eh" versus "meh" anyway.
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Evil Hans
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Re: Next 125 After Accident? Reply with quote

SharpEnough wrote:

The bike i had was a 06 CBR (with a 180 big bore on) would easily cruise at 75, i had 90 out of it a couple of times.


Why limit yourself to a 125 this time then? Go the whole hog and get an R1 Wink
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SharpEnough
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you're right really, i'm gonna get a something cheap, book my test again & put the extra towards something i actually want.

My first bike was a sr 125 which i managed to get for £600, im sure i could pick something half decent up for about that to sort me out for a couple of months.

As for doing my Mod 2 in Wolverhampton, i think i'd rather wait it out for the quieter roads in Shrewsbury that place is an absolute nightmare to ride around!
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bust my leg in a crash

Was back on a bike in a month

Man up get on with tests by a firebusa1
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use money for DAS course. Get confidence on DAS course. Buy a big bike. Don't hit central reservation.
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the hassle your better off just getting a few more days on a das.
With a £1500 budget you'll be really struggling to get one of the bikes your after, your talking a lot of searching, checking bikes over, hpi checks and test rides. This time of year I'd expect youd be talking days of research and travelling.
Once you have the bike you have to get it insured and taxed.
Then a few weeks later you do your das and pass, then you sell the 125, cancel the insurance then find another bike.
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PostPosted: 05:43 - 31 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBT's still valid, confidence is low; observations... abismal Shocked

Although at the ripe age of 19, I came back from Uni for the summer; popped to the chippy, got dazzled by a car in the middle of the street full of soccer lout's leaning out the windows waving flags and skol cans after some minor soccer victory or other... think we beat Argentina in the semi of that years world cup or summat.... and swerved into a half finished road intruder 'traffic calming measure' wotsit they had decided to slap down whilst I'd been oop nurf! AMAZINGLY the very next day it had an illuminated bollard on it Rolling Eyes

Anyway; you aint much wiser than before you crashed, really; might have relieved you of a little cockiness about how smart you thought you were, but other-wise?

You'll get back on a tiddler, and it'll go one of two ways;

Either and least likely, trepid at the idea of falling off again, you'll ride like an utter nonse; fannying around, wobbling all over the place, and the 'experience' will do as much to further errode what confidence you have left as build more.

OR; and more likely you'll get back on, and ten minutes later, nerves calmed, red-mist will be back in the driving seat; you'll be ragging the arse off whatever you have bought, looking for another place to crash.

GO GET THE LESSONS

Stuff a bike; go learn something. School will stick you on the playground on a tiddler for assessment, and progress from there, teaching you stuff... THAT is what will build your confidence; learning NEW things, and to do stuff RIGHT... not prannying about convincing yourself of how good you think you are based on how fast the speedo needle said you got up the by pass and how hard you had to brake for the round-about at the end. And all with a fella to nanny you along, and tell you what you are doing right and what you aint.

And at the end of it? Big-Boy licence, which even if it's A2 45bhp restricted, will let you ride stuff that even at the humble end of the scale, will make you realise JUST how fast 125's, even the fastest of the fast 125's or not so fast big-bore, not really 125's any more 4T's really, REALLY aren't.

Quickest 'production' two-stroke 125 is disputed between the earlier two-stroke model Cagiva Mito's and Aprillia RS's. The fastest variants built as homologation specials for Italain domestic production racing, (but none of the over-the counter models) managed about 33bhp at the crank, and managed to trip different 'authorities' timing lights at a few tenths over 100mph..... which is impressive... for a 125... but it's still only about as fast as a thirty something year old, Honda CB250 four-stroke single!!!! Yers.... all that cost, complexity & unreliability, to be almost as slow as a very slow thing from a by-gone age of slowness, really.....

Do your lessons; get your licence, get some confidence from learning something, and achieving something; THEN go look for something a little more serious, possibly more sensible, and certainly less slow to ride with new won licence.

Just remember to watch where the fuck you are going!

"i was overtaking a couple of cars on a road iv been down loads of times before," Rolling Eyes It reminds me of the Jasper Carrot insurance claim reports & the little old lady that recounted driving into the back of a parked truck that hadn't been there when she drove TO her friend Mildred's to plan the WI Bring & Buy!
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