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PostPosted: 22:54 - 08 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba1OLoPIBfY


So they'll wear a gas mask when cutting your lock?

Unless you fill it with acid or anthrax it won't do much good.
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 08 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm anosmic, come at me bro. Folded arms

...also, why the hell does nobody ever take an angle grinder to a loose chain and lock in these 'experiments'?
Realistic test scenarios i'm all for, no thief carries a bench vice with them.
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 09 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Commuter_Tim wrote:
I'm anosmic, come at me bro. Folded arms

...also, why the hell does nobody ever take an angle grinder to a loose chain and lock in these 'experiments'?
Realistic test scenarios i'm all for, no thief carries a bench vice with them.


No, they get a stick and wind it round and round in the chain until it's as tight as if it was being held in a vice. I can vouch for this, they once twisted the chain tight enough to deform my wheel rim even though they ultimately failed to get through the chain.
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 09 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Commuter_Tim wrote:
I'm anosmic, come at me bro. Folded arms

...also, why the hell does nobody ever take an angle grinder to a loose chain and lock in these 'experiments'?
Realistic test scenarios i'm all for, no thief carries a bench vice with them.


No, they get a stick and wind it round and round in the chain until it's as tight as if it was being held in a vice. I can vouch for this, they once twisted the chain tight enough to deform my wheel rim even though they ultimately failed to get through the chain.


Fair point, in that case I would love to see some videos where they do that rather than an actual vice, then it's still reliant on a human holding it, more scientific. Smile
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 09 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would be cool to have one filled with that liquid that is impossible to get off and is bright coloured, the one they use on clothes to prevent theft. like this then an angle grinder would spray it all over your clothing. Sure it wouldn't stop you, but it would be a pain in the ass and has worked enough for clothing stores for years.
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 10 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

This may be legal in the US, but it's not legal in the UK.
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 10 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
This may be legal in the US, but it's not legal in the UK.


Indeed, anything designed to project a "noxious substance" is considered a Cat 5 firearm, the same category machine guns, flamethrowers and rawket lawnchairs hang out.
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PostPosted: 03:08 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

And that nicely illustrates the difference between gun attitudes in the civilised world and the land of the the free. Here we keep the firearms behind much security and try not to give them to crazy people or anyone with a criminal record. There there is a belief that such things make you safer if everyone has one and crazy people market them as motorcycle security without considering that the person most likely to set of an alarm is the owner of the property it is installed to protect.
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 22:12 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

With a small transformer and a door buzzer you can get a few thousand volts from your 12v battery, this can be discouraging. We use to make them as kids at school, great fun. It would be difficult for a would be thief to claim any harm from such a device, even if they were stupid enough to report it.
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 12 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

smegballs wrote:
Lots of places in EU it's perfectly legal to have CS gas, pepper spray etc etc unlike UK. Some of my friends in Czech have "gas guns" which is basically a blank-firer that you can load with pepper-cartridges which blast a cloud of pepper dust in an attackers face.

Personally I think that the "firearm" classification on such non-lethal weapons are a bit OTT in the UK.


Didn't Michael Schumacher get his break at Jordan becasue Bertrand Gachot CS sprayed a taxi driver, not knowing such things are illegal.

I think it's a very bad idea to have anything that looks like a gun with the intent of using it for self defence, there is a very real risk of escalating a situation and provoking a lethal response, or worse, being mistaken for an aggressor by and attacked by an armed and responsible person

Non-lethal is a bit of a misnomer, less lethal is the term best used. If someone has an existing breathing problem or an alllergy, pepper spray or CS gas can be lethal. Tasers can be lethal given repeated or improper use or a subject with a heart problem or epilepsy.
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