Oops. October 2016 new registration stats

[Rogerborg]

Forgot because reasons. Let's go:

https://www.mcia.co.uk/Uploads/Statistics/Press-Statistics-for-October-201610.pdf

Hmm. The surge seems to have petered out with sales being essentially flat over October 2015.

All the usual suspects are there: GS, CB125F, PCX125, CRF 250 L, MT-07.

Top selling 126-650cc was the... uh... Scomadi TURISMO LEGGERA 200.

Ohhh kaaaay.

Honda, Yamaha and Lexmoto are still flogging 125s, but everybody else has the usual post-summer slump, with a particularly poor month for Kawasaki and BMW.

Suzuki, Y U NO SHOWS? Rhetorical question is rhetorical: no BOGOFF or 3 year warranty offers at the moment = no sales. It's impressive that they're still going, to be honest.
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

Expect the Africa Twin to make a reappearance when they can actually get hold of them. I think they're still well behind from the earthquake recently.
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[bamt]

This is quite bizarre:-

TOURING Harley-Davidson STREET GLIDE SPECIAL 24

So they sold more Harleys than the mainstay of this class, the BMW 1200 RT. Not only that, but they sold more Harleys in October, when you'd be expecting them to be in storage being polished rather than out on the road.

[stevo as b4]

I'm quite surprised how many of the big scary 1300cc KTM's they have sold though, as they arnt very tourer'y, and are a bit expensive too.

Maybe next month they'll have sold 88 Ducati 1299 superlegera's too?

Honda must sell around 3000 of those PCX's a year I guess? That's a nice bit of work they are getting and easy work for the dealers too.

Maybe next year we'll see a relentless sales charts top spot with GSXR 125 written in the box?

[Rogerborg]

[stevo as b4]

I think that Suzuki's big move to take the market by storm and gain sales and market position would be to hurry up and get a range of bikes introduced with their 650cc? Turbocharged twin engine fitted.

Offer them all with stop start and other mpg enhancing features, and it might just be the way for them to get noticed and offer something different that will sell and be unique too.

Kawasaki are going to introduce more and more supercharged machines I would expect over the next 5years, and I'm sure Honda and Yamaha are very capable of looking into forced induction and knocking up a few bikes. Suzuki get in there in 2017 while your ahead before its too late I say!

[Polarbear]

KTM are a bit of a surprise.

And the amount of Yammy YZF125's that keep selling. There must be a lot more money around for learners than you'd think.
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[almostthere]

Doubt wether those Harleys were actually sold I'd imagine most were pre registered and still sat in the dealers showrooms
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[Rogerborg]

I expect a fair number were, given the amount of 0 or low milers out there being offered for more than the new sticker price, because they've got Screaming Beagle exhausts and sparkly tassels.
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[Snowdonia Rider]

Lexmoto selling more than Suzuki Shame on you Suzuki.
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[Polarbear]

[Rogerborg]

They're mostly old bikes, built to a budget.

Even their 'new' SV650 is pretty much just a rebranded SFV650 which was itself a rebranded Gladius.

The new V-Strom 1000 that they'd pinned their hopes on is pretty mediocre with no compelling reason to buy it other than it's cheap. Even at that, when you run the numbers on a PCP contract, it costs the same (or less) to rent a R1200GS than a V-Strom.

I believe their big seller remains the V-Strom 650, which is an ancient bike. Not that it's a bad one, but nobody is buying it for the novelty value.

It's very telling that their sales wax and wane exactly in time with their offers. When they give 3 year warranties (about time too), 0% finance, healthy discounts on the sticker price, and/or big packs of extras, they sell bikes. As soon as those offers expire, so does the interest.

Really, who'd buy a new Suzuki if it wasn't on some sort of offer? It almost certainly will be if you just wait a bit.
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[Rogerborg]

That is impressive, I didn't know they were doing so well globally.

I guess making and selling their sub-400s in India helps with that. You can see why BMW are trying to follow suit.
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[stevo as b4]

Arnt they bringing out a new lightweight 800cc parallel twin supermoto and enduro bike soon too?

The supermoto and enduro twins from firms like Aprilia and even Ducati appeal to me, as I think once you go past about 60odd bhp from a big single, they lose their magic, and manners and appeal.

70-90bhp from a 650-900cc twin if it's light and compact sounds better and more reliable for that elevated performance level.

I've always said that a light triple or four in a proper competition style EXC type chassis could be just as good too. I hope part of Yamaha's dark side will be a WR600X with a trick chassis wrapped around an R6 heart

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[stevo as b4]

You say that as if there has never been a reliable turbocharged engine produced with stop start technology?

Low oil pressure ball bearing turbochargers are the way forward for reliable use with such systems in petrol engines. Anyway diesel engines have been using stop start systems on tdi's for years, and a turbo in a diesel almost always runs far higher shaft speeds and at higher boost pressures than a petrol engine's set up would.

The reason I say Suzuki needs to bring in their turbo twin range and also have features like stop start etc is for efficiency. In today's boring world if you can sell a 100bhp bike that does 25mpg more than any rival and with a smaller more compact engine to allow for extra space luggage capacity and lower emissions, then your onto a winner.

With the limited funds available and a limited market chasing expensive to develop high revving huge power engine designs for superbikes etc is not very lucrative for the vast majority of manufacturers product ranges.

[Irn-Bru]

It's worth noting KTM just flogged off a load of their 1290 SuperDuke's for £12k, they were all bought pretty much instantly, £4k off list price plus they come with alsorts of extras (slip on zorst, orange shiny bits, etc.), so yeah, bet that's a large chunk of their sales for the month. They also did a VAT-free deal on the 690's for a bit, meaning you could get one brand new for £6k but that seemed to be very limited.
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[Oldie]

Suzuki have tried to get away from the "£900 off" promotions but it won't work. Everyone treats their list prices like a DFS sofa - never actually bought at the full ticket price.

Having said that, their list prices aren't all that bad but it does stick in your memory when you remember looking at that new V Strom for £5,100 or the 1250 FAST for £6,500 etc

As for their bikes being outdated, I'm not that concerned as I still think they're actually half decent machines.

[Rogerborg]