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Structurally graded timber is the answer. CLS timber is normally pretty dense and usually pretty straight.
For shelves I'd use 18mm MDF, or 18mm WBP ply if it's going to be somewhere damp.
Chopsaw, skilsaw, jigsaw should be all the tools you need. The RAGE chopsaws offer good bang for buck. ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist
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Tried your local builders merchants? Travis Perkins/JT Atkinson etc.
Chopsaw is invaluable.
Don't underestimate how good modern glue can be. I made a storage unit for my kitchen a while back using 5 minute polyurethane adhesive. Didn't even bother jointing, just cut the ends square, applied the adhesive and bunged them in a sash clamp for 5 minutes while I cut the next bits. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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I'm banned from Wicks in Barnsley and B&Q in Wakefield after laying out many many lengths of timer on the aisle floor trying to find lengths that did not curve, weren't twisted and didn't bow, I needed 12 lengths.
I left Wicks with 2 and B&Q with 4.
These twisted at a later date once what I was building had been 90% completed and so it got chopped up and re-used elsewhere.
Local timber merchant is where you want to be looking, the DIY superstores buy cheap timber that's young trees and kiln dried so that the production process is faster (and cheaper) which is what causes the warping.
If possible you want any timber you buy to be stored where it's going to be used for a bit of time before you start work so it can acclimatise to the atmospheric conditions of that location, or so I've been told. ____________________ Looking to pass your CBT / Bike tests in Bury Lancashire? try www.focusridertraining.co.uk Would recommend.
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Posted: 03:40 - 11 Dec 2016 Post subject: |
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My little bro, who's in your neck of the woods, uses Ridgeon's in Bury St Edmunds, but also checks prices at Jewson's and Travis Perkins.
As mentioned previously, CLS is the best bet if you can find nice lengths but if the applications are for garage/workshop/mancave I always found that tanalised (or should I say, the pressure treated stuff that has replaced true tanalised woods) woods were cheaper and it was easier to find good clean lengths than CLS. You probably don't want to put offcuts/cock ups in the woodburner though, unless you are absolutely certain that the treatment method is burn friendly.
A half decent handsaw, tape measure and cordless drill are the barest minimum you can get away with for the kind of project you have in mind. Good modern saws (I prefer 'toolbox' style saws over longer traditional style saws, actually I prefer Japanese but we're not talking fine joinery and unlimited budget here) can usually be used as a square.
Don't skimp on either saw or tape measure quality, there is nothing worse than a cheap measure with an iffy end hook.
Then precise measuring (measure twice, cut once ) and careful, relaxed saw technique should see some great results.
Cut square ends (as also previously mentioned above), then PU glue (sparingly!!!) and screw together.
Remember that woodworking should be a cathartic enjoyable experience, if you rush it you'll probably end up hating the item every time you set eyes upon it!!! ____________________ Make mine a Corona. |
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Make me a few of these. I'm gonna then plant them in the shops to see people getting pissed by buying wooden fish.
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I've been using those since the mid nineties. Think I'm on my fourth or fifth one now. ____________________ Make mine a Corona. |
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Sorry to jump in half way through, but if you don't want to spend as much as a plunge saw / circular saw, here is a nice compromise;
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00UAKY060/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Comes with a guide that you can clamp to your work as well as 3 different blades.
I've not used one, but have ordred one based on reviews. Cut depth is 45mm, so will be ample for my use.
Youtube suggestions;
1. Woodworking for mere mortals (WWMM)
2. Mattias Wandel. |
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Hand tool suggestion...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thor-Soft-Faced-Hammer-31-712r/dp/B0001P0YF0/ref=pd_cp_60_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=KS39YM81MEF44XP8QFYH
One of the youtubers and professional instructors rated these as preferable to a wooden mallet. I have to agree it's nice to use and is great with chisels and for all other manner of knocking things together and apart (both woodwork and non-woodwork).
One of my other most handy tools is a small block plane, although a no.4 plane is probably more all round use for starting out.
It really starts to depend on how you're making the storage and what sort of finish you're going for.
Once you get into hand planes and chisels, you're immediately into sharpening them, although you can keep it simple with wet n dry paper on a flat surface. |
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I have one of those and can vouch for them being an excellent bit of kit. ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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So I've built something, yay me! nothing special since it's a tool to help me make stuff, but it is a start (apologies for shitty photo, low light issues..)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/188253/_bcf/mowa/woody/part1.png
I didn't document the process since nobody wants to fee a fat bloke puffing and wheezing on the verge of a coronary and that it's fairly straight forward to do.
Width is 495mm (19.5")
Length is 1005mm (39.5")
Realistically largest size I can get from it is 1000mm x 400mm but as it is it's pretty heavy. Originally it was going to be 1000mm x 1000mm but that's heavy and not that easy to move about or store so I thought I'd opt for the smaller version to start
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Hand saw
Square
Drill (10mm bit, 10mm flat bit, 40mm flat bit)
Glue
Screws
M8 threaded inserts
M8 bolts + wingnuts + washers
M8 Star knobs
Sellotape
It took most of today to make, including cleanup. Half laps need a little more fettling as I would prefer them not to be so tight. Hopefully next week I'll be able to get started on part 2 where I get to test to see if it actually works or is just another piece of shite I tried to make. ____________________ Honda CBF125 ➝ NC700X
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I know I'm re-posting stuff, that I've already posted elsewhere, but not many of you come to my corner and this is too cool not to post it here.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 66 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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