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Posted: 10:19 - 12 Dec 2016 Post subject: Road registered electric pit bike with claimed 90m range |
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www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262756007226
In some cases specs listed are questionable or contradictory.
Made of various cheap electric push bike bits that I recognise.
Only 1.6kw/40mph.
However, I do like that it's reasonably priced and seems to be be 'right' for an electric bike - compact, enough range and speed to be used around a city etc. |
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Posted: 11:07 - 12 Dec 2016 Post subject: |
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Oh noes, KIT of PARTES!!! Might just need a wheel put on.
Claims 90 miles, or 120km (75miles).
At full power, and using every drop of the battery's claimed energy, you're looking at 1.58 hours of runtime. Realistically, 1.5. Really realistically, maybe an hour. Maybe, but I wouldn't go out without breakdown cover that specifically includes motorcycles and electric vehicles.
40mph from 1.6kW seems wildly optimistic (as well as making it a motorcycle rather than a moped). A Honda Vision 50 claims 28mph ("design speed") from 2.5kW. Granted, that's 1.6kW at the rear wheel versus 2.5kW at the crank.
Absolute best case, I make that ~60 miles, not the claimed 90 or even 75.
Still easily good enough for commutes on the flat, if true. But... 40 mph from 1.6kW? I'm thinking not. Hills, you might as well get off and push.
Register it quickly, because if it doesn't have Euro 4 certification (linked brakes, always on lights, OBD, anti-tamper) DVLA should say no as of January 1st. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
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Posted: 11:26 - 12 Dec 2016 Post subject: |
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It claims 72V and 35AH. 72V @ 1.6kW I make to be 22.22A or 1.58 hours at full power all things being ideal (which I doubt they will be).
Like all electric bikes, I'd want to read a trusted owner review over many kilo-miles and battery cycles before spending north of £1200 on one (with delivery and registration).
Insurance should be a right laugh. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I'd hope it'd be LED all round.
At some point I will have an electric bike, but it won't be this one. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Can't see it having a road legal LED headlight when you've got budget components at a budget price. May have an incandescent light with the same power as an LED headlight however .
It wouldn't be my choice, but I think it's definitely getting towards the right way and could be a good choice for many in London etc.
The hub could be interesting for making a hybrid MSX, pit bike or similar - slot it in, add a controller and smallish lithium battery and you've got the option of either and the capability to sustain town speeds on electric alone. |
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Electric start - handy on an electric bike ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good |
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It's no (king of the slow stop start city slog) GSXR1000 is it?
But I can see why some would like it, but it's not for me at all.
If I were commuting in London, I'd want the option to pedal as well, and let's face it the brakes and suspension on modern quality MTB's is easily good enough for a 2hp motor and 40mph. I'd want the option to pedal assist, either to aid acceleration, burn off the beer when it's flat, and to get me home away from the gangsta feral hoodies when the batteries suddenly go flat.
I think the price is ok though, seeing as you can't get a really good spec and quality electric MTB/city bike for much less than double the price of these things.
Nice to see a new vehicle with less than 180bhp that G almost endorses though! |
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Posted: 22:54 - 12 Dec 2016 Post subject: |
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At 1.6kw, I'd say you're getting to the point pedalling is a bit redundant - in reality you'll probably find you don't really pedal.
You could just as well fit pedals to a motorcycle so you can spin your feet.
Given the choice (and working shoulders/wrists/etc) I'd be endorsing a KTM200XC for fun . |
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I've been watching that sellers Monkey Bike's for a while, trying to decide whether I want one or not. They used to advertise that they provide full support and backup through out the DVLA registration process but they've deleted that part from their adverts now since having a negative feedback saying bike could not be registered. Dunno why I have such a strong itch to get a Monkey Bike anyway ____________________ I want your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle.
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I also got in touch with them about their "street legal" knobbly-bikes earlier this year.
They were all assurances, but when pressed to confirm that they have low evaporation fuel systems and always-on lights (which have been mandatory on all bikes since the start of 2016, at least de jure), and the certification to show it, they suddenly clammed up.
Apparently they don't welcome "ANY" questions. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I must be a weirdo, but give me a top spec hardtail city bike or MTB, with say a 500w motor some trick battery's that allow 25mph, and a non pedal assisted (worst case) range of 25miles. That's enough for me if it was a light agile aluminium bike, with a spunky trick spec. You could take it on the train, or up to your 10 th floor London office too.
For a pit bike, I'd lust over a Kawasaki KSR 80 or 110, with a trick Japanese titanium pipe, and some bling bits fitted. But I can't see you being able to take a nice crisp smokey 2smoke pit bike into your work building or office.
Oh and Id actually pedal a 50quid cheap bike to work every day, if it meant I could hoon on a 200cc KTM motard on my days off, so again I'm agreeing with G. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 133 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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