New Benelli / Qjiang 1200

[linuxyeti]

Hi all

Well, I do quite like the look of this, if CFMoto don't bring out a Euro 4 TR or TR-G then, when the time is right, depending on cost etc, I could be very interested in the civvy version of this...

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2016/december/big-benelli-1200cc-triple-scooped
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[RhynoCZ]

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[TheSmiler]

Right then simple upload of the image from the link, so they have designed a pan European mixed with the new ugly horrible BMW k series.

https://i.imgur.com/OKEn9TQ.jpg
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[Rogerborg]

Weird how Bennetts seem to scoop so much that actual 'bike' rags miss.

"Benelli" already do a few big triples, but - even if this one is Eurobollocks compliant - will MotoGB take a gamble on it? howmanyleft suggests that the modern "Benellis" sell in the tens of units. <broken record>Support, warranty, parts, resale.</broken record>
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[linuxyeti]

I guess only time will tell, probably not looking to upgrade/replace my TR for a couple more years or so, anyhow.
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[CrusaderPhil]

[bamt]

It is if you copy and paste it rather than clicking on it.

[Vracktal]

Wonder what the parts compatibility will be like between that shaft drive unit and the BMW unit they traced it from?
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[Rogerborg]

I would hope that they've done a better job of it than the Bavarians.
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[linuxyeti]

Seems it's finally on it's way

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2020/january/benelli-1200-chinas-most-powerful-bike-yet

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/-/media/bikesocial/2020-january-images/benelli-qianjiang-qj1200-tourer/benelli-qianjiang-qj1200.ashx?h=493&w=740&la=en&hash=51AD7E5AD35B22B75F7E7C288A57233A69029570

Have to admit, I was tempted originally, but, if they've gone back to chain instead of shaft drive, I think that would be a retrograde step.
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[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

Doesn't look at all top-heavy or beemer-derivative.
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[linuxyeti]

Or FJR1300 or CF650TR-G or GTR1000 or ST1100/1300 ... and so on, most bikes are derivations of other bikes by differing manufacturers.
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[Polarbear]

It won't sell.

People who own big tourers don't motorcycle on the cheap.

They own Goldwings and BMW's and the like and are in the group of people that have surplus cash for their hobbies.

Triumph got their fingers burnt with the Trophy even though it's a perfectly good long haul tourer with all the toys and was way cheaper than the equivalent BMW. Brand loyalty is strong in this part of the bike market and they struggled to break in.

Also, this group of people, me included, expect to take my bike to the dealer for service/work, ride out on a courtesy machine while it's in there and get 5 star service and are willing to pay a premium for that when it comes to bikes costing the best part of 15+ grand.

The old story, until the Chinese have a proper dealership set up they are never going to be mainstream. It's the same with their cars.

and if, as they say, it's chain drive, forget it. There hasn't been a tourer made for years by the mainstream manufacturers that isn't shaft drive or in some cases, Victory and Harley, belt drive.
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[linuxyeti]

[Polarbear]

I know you are a protagonist of the Chinese motorcycle but all the larger bikes they have made, they just don't sell.

The ER6 copy never sold. The one in a dress never sold. The Benellis never sold, you could buy a new Tornado for basically pennies.

There is either something drastically wrong with their bikes, their marketing or their set up in the western world.

So presuming their bikes have improved from the pile of tat my son had when he was learning then it must be down to marketing, distribution or dealership set up.

I'd bet my last pound it's because they don't have a network of company backed dealerships and that is a huge reason why no one will spend big that tourer.
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[linuxyeti]

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[pepperami]