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Posted: 00:02 - 11 Jan 2017 Post subject: |
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My ECU definitely isn't that clever, but later ones might be .
In my experience it's feels like it's related to power when you kick down - I'd say the race SV was less bad than the 675.
However, of course the 675 revs higher and many people may actually change down at relatively lower rpm. (Took me ages to be able to judge rpm from sound on the SV.)
Look forward to seeing more dashes like that - ideally running on android, able to run apps . |
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Anyway, I don't really like them. I much prefer the Aprilia Tuono V4 as a naked proposition..
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I like the current Striple. I like the idea of the Speed Triple. But taking the smaller bike up just a 100cc or so seems to me will result in the worst of both worlds. A big part of the Striple's appeal for me was its light weight, easy to flick around (although I've since discovered maybe that isn't really my thing). I've always suspected it's current bigger brother doesn't have enough oomph. Something in between? Hmmm, I'm not confident.
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+1 to that. V4 1100 Tuono Factory is pure sex. Unfair comparison though, Striple isn't even in the same league. ____________________ stinkwheel: He had an animated .gif of a cat performing fellatio. It's not socially acceptable. It can have real life adverse effects on other people. |
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G wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: | But taking the smaller bike up just a 100cc or so seems to me will result in the worst of both worlds. A big part of the Striple's appeal for me was its light weight, easy to flick around (although I've since discovered maybe that isn't really my thing). |
They made it lighter not heavier I believe? |
Has potential then, I guess. Although somehow, it still isn't grabbing my imagination Will all be in the power curve characteristics then, perhaps. My heart is saying, "make it vicious!"
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If that's what you want from a naked bike, I'd recommend the Moto Morini Corsaro Veloce. The MT-10 is pretty vicious too. |
I think "vicious" is a gut reaction in my case. It always appeals to me
The bikes that currently really appeal to me are the Tuono (want to try the twin, but the V4 looks much nicer), the SDR1290 and yes, the MT10 , although the looks of the latter don't do much for me; I like what I hear of its character though. Not that I could afford any of them
All those 3 are in a quite different league to any Triumph though. Triumph need to make something that will have real impact in that market, I reckon. The Speed Triple should perhaps be the next one in its sights then, but a wholly new machine. Well, obvious really, cos if they don't, they'll be completely left behind in the litre stakes; probably are already - the BMW S1000R sounds like a much better bike to me, and the way things are going, it won't be long before the other big three Japs will be making it look old too.
So they drop the 675 Striple, their big hitter. They haven't got a litre bike that is up to scratch. The bigger engined Striple will be it for a while. Maybe it can challenge the litre bikes because it'll be so light? But will it then be too flighty for a road bike? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Alex A wrote: | But as far as the Speed Triple goes, it's much more competitive than you might have expected given the statistics. |
Well, I wonder where I got that idea from then? Perhaps I'm thinking of older models, and just haven't kept up with things that much. On the face of it then, with similarly competent riders on the road, there shouldn't be that much in it. I'd be interested to see similar comparisons from, say, the States or Germany.
And the one I find most desirable came out bottom of the list! Maybe some trouble getting that power down effectively. Still sounds like the most hooligan, but perhaps I'm wrong there too?
A new, more powerful Striple doesn't get that high on my list still though, but early days I suppose. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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G wrote: | I was always a bit 'meh' about the speed triple and didn't think it'd changed too massively - obviously R gets better suspension etc.
It was nice, flighty enough, perky enough and decent enough suspension - but didn't quite have that sparkle for me. |
You do mean the Speed and not the Street? If so, you've just kind of confirmed the impression I'd somehow got of them. Not that I've ridden one mind. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Speed Triple faster than Mt10, and marginally slower than Tuono Factory is pretty impressive. Like the looks too.
Triumph have had one decent cash cow in terms of the Striple, so much so that Yamaha took them on.
Triumph have responded, the bike is prettier, more powerful, lighter and has more grunt. The bottom of the range is still priced in line with the MT09, only now there are more options for upgrading the bits they've cut back on to achieve that price. The RT and RS as well as the R.
They've made it more of what made it so good to begin with. On paper.
That said. The RS looks to be _only_ £1k less than the 2016 Speed. Clearly different bikes, but you'd probably try both because of the similar ish price.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 108 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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