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Monkeywrenche... |
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Monkeywrenche... Nearly there...
Joined: 27 Mar 2015 Karma :
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Posted: 14:16 - 12 Jan 2017 Post subject: |
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Teflon-Mike wrote: | Take what you wish from it.
"The Point" was, and remains, there is a direct conflict between safety and speed.
Doesn't matter how you try and wrap up the wordage; if you are trying to go fast enough that 'The Limits' are in question, you are NOT doing anything to make things any 'safer'.
If you want to explore "The Limits", go ahead... just DON'T try and kid me, yourself or any-one else, that it is in ANY WAY in the interests of 'safety'... or come crying when the plot goes to pot and you learn the lesson the hard way. |
There's a tight corner on my way home, by experimentation i know that I can take it at 45 (dry road warm tyres), a full 15mph below the speed limit for the road. So what should I be doing? taking it at 25mph because speed=danger? and I should in no way find out how fast is too fast?
Just stop man ____________________ 2001 Aprilia RSV Mille R -dead, 2016 XSR 700-gone, 2018 Dorsoduro 900 |
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Holdawayt Trackday Trickster
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Oneear |
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Oneear Renault 5 Driver
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Posted: 21:02 - 12 Jan 2017 Post subject: |
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Holdawayt wrote: |
Safety really isn't one of my concerns when straddling an engine with wheels and a fuel tank next to my balls. |
And while that's great for a lot of bikers, it's not for others.
I didn't learn to ride, and then buy a bike, to go fast or go on a track, or put myself in an overly dangerous situation. Different strokes and all that.
In other news, I can empathise with the OP, I've been riding a 'big' bike since the beginning of December, and gradually gaining confidence while doing so - learning what the bike, or more accurately what I am comfortable and capable of when riding. Specifically, cornering. Straight lines, slow control, awareness etc are all part of this learning process, but by far the most difficult to improve for me is going around bends and not shitting it.
Seems to me that gradual practise is the way forward, and i'm looking forward to getting back in touch with the training school so I can have someone who knows tell me (and SHOW me) what I am doing right and what I am doing wrong. |
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talkToTheHat World Chat Champion
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I have a friend with a garage full of bikes and a transit van. He is a year or two younger than me and an order of magnitude madder. He gave me a lift across a favourite bit of back road to make a delivery. There is a long straight followed by a nice sweeping bend in the distance. he is cursing the lack of speed of the transit.
"So how fast would you take your bandit through that bend?"
"This way, slow, 50? Other way, still accelerating and not looking at the clocks"
(makes yorkshire noise) "one twenny on the r1 easy. Why are you so slow?"
"tractor"
"yeah but when you've grown a pair and overtaken it?"
"TRACTOR!"
We find out the limits of breaking and steering of a transit as a tractor emerges from field into road on exit of bend there is a long silence.
"How'd you see that so far off?"
"It was kicking up dust, wouldn't have seen it if it were any less dry, I can't see through the bend this way, visibility is better from the other direction"
Knowing one's own limit of skill and the limits of bike performance are different. On the road any bike has the potential to be lethal if the rider makes a bad decision. There are tractors, blind bends, road furniture, occasional wondering deer, and all kinds of stupid. Being able to stop in the road that you can see to be clear is a thing. It's a bit different on track. ____________________ Bandit. does. everything. |
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