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 Posted: 20:09 - 13 Jan 2017  Post subject: Re: Failed MOD 1 can anyone recommend a decent training cent |
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| bakedbeanzontoast wrote: | Can anyone recommend a decent training centre in N London or Chelmsford area. One I recently used was pretty poor - conflicting advice and techniques from different trainers, (had 3 different ones on the 5 day course I booked) poor training facility for mod 1 (should have asked to see before booking the course). Is there a directory or something out there that ranks their performance - is it possible to get independent data on a test centers/trainers pass rates? Having just failed my MOD 1 I really want to be sure that any more training I take up is with a top notch organisation. Thanks in advance. |
whats the name of this school?
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Can vouch for these fellas, they got me through A2 at the Edgware site and full A at Lee Valley.
Chris is a great instructor if you're fortunate enough to have him. He'll crack jokes on escort to test so you won't feel as nervous and jus has general bants about 140-ing it on the blackbird cause he's late to work. |
With respect, that just means he has a bit of charm and can get people to like him, not that he's a good instructor, let alone a great one.
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| Tawny wrote: | With respect, that just means he has a bit of charm and can get people to like him, not that he's a good instructor, let alone a great one. |
Something that I'm really hoping is that the DVLA follow through on their intention to regularly (and unexpectedly) field test all instructors, not just CBT ones.
I'm pretty sure there are a fair number who should be invited to try a different career.
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| Rogerborg wrote: | Something that I'm really hoping is that the DVLA follow through on their intention to regularly (and unexpectedly) field test all instructors, not just CBT ones.
I'm pretty sure there are a fair number who should be invited to try a different career. |
I don't know - it seems the problem is the opacity of information on things like pass rates, student satisfaction rates, etc. It might seem a bit draconian to bring in the DVLA clipboard army when the market should be filtering out bad instructors based on the quality of the product.
| Meef wrote: | Charm aside, he knew what he was talking about & helped me improve on a lot of things for Mod 1 & 2.
I wouldn't call him a great instructor if he taught me fuck all. |
It really might be an age-related thing. The reason I was surprised by your statement is that I'm not confident in making such powerfully affirmative assertions about anyone at all, but I was when I younger, and the world seemed to be divided into 2 camps: the good and the bad. Later it doesn't seem that way. Nobody seems special at all. What initially seemed like talent or genius later reveals itself as all technique and smoke and mirrors. It would seem that only the good die young, and when you get older you learn a few tricks, such as the right facial expressions, jokes, anecdotes, etc. to make people like you.
Like the other poster said, the experience of learning to ride a bike is powerfully influenced by subjective impressions based on personal performance. If you cast your mind back to when you were in school, there may have been teachers you liked or disliked, but your opinion never made it into the Ofsted report, only because as a pupil you didn't have didactic expertise at all. Only educational experts can judge a teacher's ability.
For example, I like the Yamaha XT. As a grown-up I know the strengths and weaknesses of the bike. As a kid, I just liked the teacher who rode it, so I assumed it must have been the bees' knees in every respect, when it isn't. That teacher is still teaching, at the same school, and is widely regarded as a very nice, charming fellow, well-liked by his colleagues and the pupils, but a terrible teacher.
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| Tawny wrote: | it seems the problem is the opacity of information on things like pass rates, student satisfaction rates, etc. |
In an ideal free market, sure. But pass rates can be bumped by bullying learners into paying for far more lessons than they need, and satisfaction surveys can be trivially faked.
Since we pay for a bloated, creaking State who already run the licensing racket, I have little objection to them giving the worst of the Shouty McRants a P45.
Not that it would actually stop them mind - I doubt any learner, ever, has asked to see an instructor's certificate (the only thing which actually validates their entitlement to ride a Big Boy Bike).
Bear in mind, even Tef reckons he was left in charge of learners while the real instructors skived off.
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