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Conker92
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 12 Jan 2017    Post subject: Yamaha ybr125 high performance ignition coil? Reply with quote

What is a high performance ignition coil? and what does it do? Is it worth it? Would it harm the bike or would i gain any better performance from it?

https://motorcycleparts-uk.co.uk/yamah-ybr125-performance-ht-ignition-coil.html
Thats the part.
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 12 Jan 2017    Post subject: Re: Yamaha ybr125 high performance ignition coil? Reply with quote

Conker92 wrote:
What is a high performance ignition coil? and what does it do? Is it worth it? Would it harm the bike or would i gain any better performance from it?

https://motorcycleparts-uk.co.uk/yamah-ybr125-performance-ht-ignition-coil.html
Thats the part.


Do you think a YBR coil will fix this?

Conker92 wrote:
So i got my Honda cg125 back from the garage and it turns out it needs a replacemnt crankshaft or new engine all together.

It's red, it will automatically add 10mph. Which in your case should get you up to... 10mph.

The semi-serious answer is that it's marketing blurb. I fitted one to my copybike for a laugh (and on the tenuous reason that a random intardtuber reckoned the stock ones were rubbish), it achieved nothing. It may even have contributed to bad running after sustained high revs. Probably because it was every bit as rubbish as the stock one.

Mine was orange though, so would only have added 5mph, tops.
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 12 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is this being brought up? Sorted all that out, done.
Moving on....
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 12 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you replace it with a YBR engine?

Oh, I've just remembered! Mine was actually red and orange.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/__DYtEEjm5wE/SgSLvptpfMI/AAAAAAAAAE4/0Rvl7yQc-mM/s1600/coil.jpg

I fitted it because the plug caps on the stock ones were actually claimed to cause problems with arcing and RF interference. Not that I had any basis for believing that the replacement was any better. But... red and orange.

tl;dr version - don't replace it if it ain't broke.
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 12 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's mental that you have such a high karma but all you have ever done on my posts is troll.
I may have little to no knowledge on bikes, but i love them and want to learn.
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 12 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come now, I've trolled a lot more than your 25 posts.
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 12 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing

Thats not trolling. I knew what he meant
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 12 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does it do? I'd guess it creates a higher potential difference between the plug electrodes than a standard unit. What this is supposed to achieve I have no idea. If anything it would slightly advance the ignition which would make performance worse if anything.

In thirty or so years of driving I'm yet to come across any simple plug in miracle performance gadget that actually does anything noticeable,
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 12 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conker92 wrote:
It's mental that you have such a high karma but all you have ever done on my posts is troll.
I may have little to no knowledge on bikes, but i love them and want to learn.


Then learn. Rog may be being a little sarcastic but he's pretty much told you everything you need to know.

I too am wondering how a YBR coil will fix a fucked cg125 but I may have missed an episode.
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 13 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conker92 wrote:
but all you have ever done on my posts is troll.


He's a naughty man sometimes, that's why


Conker92 wrote:
I may have little to no knowledge on bikes, but i love them and want to learn.


Don't worry, see through some of the gentle ribbing the guys sometimes give and the knowledge is actually there. You have others who only troll and nothing else but majority of the guys will give you input and helpful tips.
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 13 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conker92 wrote:
It's mental that you have such a high karma but all you have ever done on my posts is troll.
I may have little to no knowledge on bikes, but i love them and want to learn.


Ladies and gentleman, we have a special snowflake. Grow a spine kiddo.

A YBR "high performance" coil does fuck all on a YBR. It'll probably not work at all on a CG, given it likely wont fit on in the fist place. Anything "go faster" for a 125 (leaner legal ones, not the fun ones) is almost certainly bollocks, banking on a placebo effect to sell.
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 13 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh man OP I remember being you two years ago.

Got my shiny R125 and was like "HOW DO I MAKE IT FASTER".

*Buys faster louder exhaust*

*Searches Google for mysterious red powerband*

*Buys blue rim tapes for +5mph*

Exaggerating a little but it's hilarious to look back on the amount of cringe. I knew fuck all about anything automotive two years ago.

Anyway, after some tough love from BCF I learned.

The best thing to do if you want to survive learn stuff on BCF is to not get salty and allow the banter to flow over you while you absorb the nuggets of info hidden underneath it.

Anyway, for a serious upgrade to your CG you'll need to buy a donkey from an Arabian market trader (they have the best ones) and get it to pull your CG.

It'll add +1 donkeypower, which is around 0.3 horsepower. Big increase for a 125.
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PostPosted: 01:53 - 14 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the reasons they are used is when running compression so high that a spark can't form in the cylinder or using a plug with a bigger gap you can't get a spark at the stock coil voltages.

The super high performance coils generally makes the voltage higher.

So the point I'm making is that you need to add a high flow pod air filter and a high performance coil to really feel the difference. Sometimes with all the added air flow and big sparks your cylinder pressure will be too high so you need to loosen the spark plug by about 2 turns.

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PostPosted: 12:36 - 14 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillyJ wrote:
One of the reasons they are used is when running compression so high that a spark can't form in the cylinder

Errr. Wouldn't a compressed medium make it easier to form an arc? Eh?

BillyJ wrote:
or using a plug with a bigger gap you can't get a spark at the stock coil voltages.

That I can understand.

BillyJ wrote:
your cylinder pressure will be too high so you need to loosen the spark plug by about 2 turns.

10 quarter turns?
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PostPosted: 15:09 - 14 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
BillyJ wrote:
One of the reasons they are used is when running compression so high that a spark can't form in the cylinder

Errr. Wouldn't a compressed medium make it easier to form an arc? Eh?

BillyJ wrote:
or using a plug with a bigger gap you can't get a spark at the stock coil voltages.

That I can understand.

BillyJ wrote:
your cylinder pressure will be too high so you need to loosen the spark plug by about 2 turns.

10 quarter turns?


Actually I think you're right, it is 10 quarter turns!

And nope more compression means more there is more air that needs ionizing across the same distance before an arc can form so it's easier to spark out a cylinder in free air than in a compressed cylinder.
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 15 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

That seems... reasonable. I did some physics, so my gut instinct is to consider everything to be spherical and in a vacuum.
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