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trevor saxe-coburg-gotha
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PostPosted: 09:12 - 25 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

About that "stop screw" - it's actually an adjuster...
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 25 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

That certainly looks interesting!!
The square "bracket" thing is where the breather tube for the battery goes, along with the crankcase breather and the 2 float bowl overflows.
Mine doesn't have the float bowl overflows at the moment, but its not overflowing!
If the bowls are overflowing, that would suggest that the float is stuck down and needs looking at!
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 25 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P1030102_zps5f70b5dd.jpg
Yes, the brake pedal arm ought to rest ON the head of that bolt to adjust the 'rest' position.
Bending it 'in' is not a good idea.
Have a look at the inner edge of the actual pedal plate.
Sharp isn't it?
Now look whats imedietely inboard of it.
Yes, that's the primary drive cover.
I've pulled more than one primary cover to find that it had a hole EXACTLY where that lever would bang into it, if the bike fell over on that side.
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PostPosted: 03:33 - 26 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevor machine wrote:
About that "stop screw" - it's actually an adjuster...


really?
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PostPosted: 03:42 - 26 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

CustomJ wrote:
That certainly looks interesting!!
The square "bracket" thing is where the breather tube for the battery goes, along with the crankcase breather and the 2 float bowl overflows.
Mine doesn't have the float bowl overflows at the moment, but its not overflowing!
If the bowls are overflowing, that would suggest that the float is stuck down and needs looking at!
-J


Cheers CustomJ

The float bowl vent pipes and battery vent pipe are missing on this bike so, when/if they get replaced, at least I'll know where to route them.

The owner has been using the bike for months and turning the fuel tap of when it's parked up (she's only 17 and this is her 1st vehicle so I don't think she knew it was to stop the float bowl leaking, the prev owner told her to do it but didn't mention why) so despite being tempted to strip and clean the carbs for her I think for the time being she should just continue doing this.

She uses the bike daily and I don't want it to end up in bits in my garage.

PS I'm a bit worried about going off-topic/hijacking your thread so I'll start a new one if you'd prefer. I just thought it was good to add to a thread which has had a lot of input already.
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PostPosted: 03:45 - 26 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P1030102_zps5f70b5dd.jpg
Yes, the brake pedal arm ought to rest ON the head of that bolt to adjust the 'rest' position.
Bending it 'in' is not a good idea.
Have a look at the inner edge of the actual pedal plate.
Sharp isn't it?
Now look whats imedietely inboard of it.
Yes, that's the primary drive cover.
I've pulled more than one primary cover to find that it had a hole EXACTLY where that lever would bang into it, if the bike fell over on that side.


Hi Tef. Maybe I didn't caption the picture very well....

The pedal ended up like this because (I suspect) she dropped the bike. I have straightened it out and it now rests on the bolt head etc. I'll put an 'after' picture up. That one was how I found things when I was doing the job on the centre stand
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 27 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So... Cush rubbers, where do you find them? Can you use ones from the 250?
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trevor saxe-coburg-gotha
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PostPosted: 08:03 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

foy9999 wrote:
trevor machine wrote:
About that "stop screw" - it's actually an adjuster...


really?


Ooh! Sarcasm! But then, I was being a bit of a tosser. I'd interpreted you as saying you'd pushed the pedal *behind* the screw, and that you were describing the screw as some sort of stopper that prevented the pedal from returning to its former position (which is of course actually it's proper position). Anyway, as you were. Oh - not that it matters but I think my bolt might actually be on the other way up - so that the thread is less exposed.
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PostPosted: 05:15 - 09 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well. I finally got a sidetand bar set up which I am pretty sure will neatly fit the 125 Superdream.

It's off a Honda CM125 Rebel (I think) and was a tenner plus £5 P&P and I rounded it up to £20 as the guy went to the trouble of taking some measurements for me. He told me more than once that he didn't think this was right for my bike so I appreciated his concern but when he gave me the measurements I was sure it was a goer.



https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P1030336_zps3542c96f.jpg
2nd hand 'project' footrest/sidestand bar & sidestand from another small Honda


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P1030337_zps39a08c0e.jpg
captive nuts on RHS of mounting bracket look fine


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P1030340_zpsf3b56be6.jpg
sidestand bolt/pivot also in good nick with no stripped threads

Am gonna cut the footpeg parts off and clean it up and paint it over the next few days hopefully. Watch this space.... as they say
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 09 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got the first bit done last night: removed extraneous footpeg extension.

Gave it a bit of a wire brushing and it's pretty clean but have got the parts in a DeoxC dip to pickle it clean before paint. The sidestand foot has worn away but I have some 3mm steel plate which will be ideal for making a new one

https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P1030353_zps4b899ba5.jpg
extraneous footpeg extensions hacksawed off


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P10303571_zpsdbaaf162.jpg
foot has worn away from sidestand. new metal can be welded on


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P10303611_zpscba1f716.jpg
spring location points also a bit worn but can be built up with blobs of weld. sidestand pivot bolt also a little worn


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P10303621_zps4b55be45.jpg
the all-important measurement between vertical plates. 11cm agrees with width of engine casings at mounting holes


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P10303651_zps9f4025cd.jpg
as do the 5cm centres between the bolt holes
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 11 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought the parts would be ready for paint after a day or two in the DeoxC but as the pics show there are still a few rusty bits.

The mixture losses it strength over time but still gets the job done

https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P1030439_zpsbc154b49.jpg


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P1030440_zps58c6c66b.jpg
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PostPosted: 07:01 - 12 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, Cush drive rubbers... who does them?
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PostPosted: 07:42 - 20 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or rather, what size are they. I don't really want to have to take the rear wheel off twice!
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PostPosted: 07:51 - 20 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/CB125TDE-SUPER-DREAM-1984/part_48097/
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PostPosted: 07:57 - 20 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup found them, stock was 0 when I saw them last. I can get the aftermarket ones easier, but I need the sizes really.
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 20 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm afraid I can't help re the cush drive rubbers but in case anyone is interested.... that's the stand and bar in epoxy primer and the worn spring-mount bits built back up with some weld and ground back to original profile. Quite happy with it. Should have had the primer/topcoats on but it's a very small job to be mixing up paint/cleaning gun so I've been waiting to do it along with some other parts that are being worked on (not from the CB)

https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P1030520_zpsd1478b94.jpg


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P10305211_zps7a44ba20.jpg


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P1030526_zps0ab5a9b7.jpg


Have also had another issue to deal with. Her speedo just stopped working Sad

Now there are some KC1 model number clock pods on Ebay but there must be for overseas markets (USA perhaps) as there is no tacho and ironically there is just a big sidestand idiot light in the place where the tacho would be. They are also about £200.

However. I asked a guy selling some other CB125TDC parts on the offchance if he had a speedo and he had a damaged pod so I got the lot for £14 and have got as far as removing the speedo and changing the odometer to match the mileage on our bike


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P10305341_zps0ee334df.jpg
damaged clock binnacle cheap from Ebay


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P10305371_zps7b55e191.jpg


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P1030541_zps245e2955.jpg
4 screws hidden in corner release clocks securing plate


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P10305431_zpsd465e716.jpg


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P10305441_zps06abdf79.jpg


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P10305461_zps2395f9a9.jpg
underside view of speedo and tacho


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P10305471_zps1ffb742b.jpg
top view



https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P10305481_zps3503b7b3.jpg
odometer can be removed for re-setting by carefully grinding away a notched area of the original bracket



https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P10305501_zpsbd8a946b.jpg
mileage has been re-set to suit bike it is going on but one number slightly out of line so gonna do it again
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 03 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So.... I last week I spent a good few hours getting the speedo pod ready as the MoT was due on 24th April and the clutch cable snapped when she was arriving at work one day so time was of the essence.

I figured it would be quicker to swap pods when I was putting the new cable on rather than take her original pod apart to put the new speedo in it.

Well. The re-worked pod (including real glass cut to shape - instead of the bit of perspex someone had fitted) looks pretty good but the whole thing was a bit of a waste of time as there was no improvement when it went on.

This meant the speedo drive, something in the hub, or the cable was at fault. The top of the speedo cable couldn't by turned by hand so I figured it wasn't snapped and when the front wheel was spun the cable didn't moved so I immediately blamed the speedo drive. Time was off the essence so I was gonna order one of many available on Ebay without checking further but after making that mistake with the pod I decided to check further before buying more unnecessary parts.

Turns out the cable was seized and damaged. The hub end has an unusual U shaped nipple which locates on a spade shape on the drive gear. One ear of the U shape was missing and the other had snapped off.

So we are waiting on a new cable. Goes to show that you should examine all possibilities before buying repair parts.


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P10307491_zps9dea6f65.jpg
new aftermarket clutch cable seems to be suitable for many models. only difference with this part and the old one is that the adjuster nuts were 14mm instead of 13mm


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P1030750_zpsbd275888.jpg
should clutch cable be routed through this clip?



https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P1030764_zps6e8be7a2.jpg
repaired binnacle at top looks better here than the original


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P1030768_zps2135d18c.jpg
but casing shows scuffs from crash or similar


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P1030770_zps28e19b87.jpg
screw holding cable to drive was stuck so whole unit removed to get better purchase on it with impact driver after wire brush/WD40


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P1030771_zpsa1ede8bc.jpg
no sign of rust in threaded section but was stuck fast and head messed up by previous owner



https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P10307731_zpsa3a249aa.jpg
once cable withdrawn spade shape drive on end of gear is revealed. is this blue finish OEM btw!?


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P10307741_zps5ff4ef59.jpg
looks like something is missing here...


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P10307791_zpsdb71cbe3.jpg
lots of muck and rust on end of seized cable

So. Just waiting on a new speedo cable which was less than £10 inc P&P from Ebay and need to decide whether to use the original pod or the replacement. The mileage is more accurate on the new one but the original has a better casing.

Not a big deal either way really.
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 03 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

foy9999 wrote:


No.

That clip, there should be one either side, is for the HT lead.

Cant see routing in the dark on any of ours. If you struggle with it, I'll have a look in day-light see if I can get snaps.
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PostPosted: 01:31 - 04 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Tef'

She only rode the bike a few miles up the road after I put it there and mentioned the clutch felt different.

I'll unhook it
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PostPosted: 07:15 - 04 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clutch cable just goes through the wire bracket at the front if the tank.
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 04 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The new speedo cable arrived today and looks spot on.

So, if anyone needs one rather than trawling for an OEM part or spending time cross-referencing with other models you can be confident that the readily available TSK Hi-Lex cable 455370 is correct


https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P1030911_zps0f850471.jpg
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https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/P10309101_zps5ae2cb2a.jpg
looks like the old one Smile
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 04 Feb 2017    Post subject: it's mine now Reply with quote

well guys. It's been a while and the bike (Francis as the last owner christened it) has been given to me a long with a bunch of parts she bought to resurrect him after a minor crash which bent the fork legs.

I still have loads of pics on Photobucket from when it was stored in my barn after the crash.

Some time after that the owner's mother and I split up and she & her man came and took him/it away.

Now the young couple are moving to NZ (probably) and having a clearout the offered him to me.

I don't need another project but couldn't say no so here he is.

I should really start a new thread on it...

https://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a577/ffoxy99/Honda%20CB125TD/DSCF6753_zpsft7co1xf.jpg

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