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PostPosted: 14:20 - 18 Mar 2017    Post subject: Safer Nuclear Power? Reply with quote

http://anonhq.com/scientists-invent-nuclear-waste-powered-diamond-batteries-that-last-more-than-5000-years/

Yeah yeah, anonhq sauce etc. But still.
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PostPosted: 02:14 - 19 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

A shit battery that will also turn you into a mutant. Great.

Liquid Thorium is where its really at Man.
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PostPosted: 06:58 - 19 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perfectly safe and awesome.

But I lost my erection when I saw this...

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An alkaline AA battery weighs about 20g, has an energy density of storage rating of 700J/g, and uses up this energy if operated continuously for about 24 hours. A diamond beta-battery containing 1g of C14 will deliver 15J per day, and will continue to produce this level of output for 5,730 years so its total energy storage rating is 2.7 TeraJ.


Tiny amounts of power compared to an AA battery even.

Thinking

Interesting for future development though, and fair play to them.

Perhaps if heavily subsidised it would be an economically viable proposal. As they say, long term storage costs would decrease by treatment of the graphite, so in theory the batteries could almost be a byproduct.

Put enough of them in series, and who knows what you could run Thinking

I have always advocated nuclear power, and this could be an extra positive to running it.
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 19 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiny power output but definitely better than a slap in the face.

Nuclear is the only answer to future energy questions anyway, so any advance is good advance.
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 19 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

They mention pacemakers. Can't imagine they need much power.
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 19 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah there are probably loads of uses, just not the sort of everyday stuff that most people are probably going to be expecting 'the scientists' to provide.
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PostPosted: 00:03 - 20 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

The way the health of folk are going... Pacemakers are an everyday need Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 20 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Size is only an issue where portability is needed. If the battery has to be sixty times bigger than a conventional one given the massive gain in longevity for some applications. Cant think what though.
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 20 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be used to power the Matrix and make the human race obsolete.
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 20 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I predict an awkward job at the packaging designers offices. "Disposal instructions: ..."
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 20 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

panrider_uk wrote:
Could be used to power the Matrix and make the human race obsolete.


Thats making an assumption that Humans have a purpose to begin with.
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 20 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're all aware that this is a bunch of lab monkeys shilling for more funding, right?
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 20 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better more lab monkeys getting funding for making the UK a leader in nuke power and management, than thesis monkeys doing the same in order to write more nonsense hand-wavy anthropological arguments about social sexual identity or whatever else.
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 20 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imaginary nuke power. Isn't that like funding science fiction writers?

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PostPosted: 22:34 - 20 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is someone confusing bog standard garden variety nuclear power with cold fusion?

And is someone forgetting that leading the way in new radioactive waste management technologies could mean s for British companies taking the helm globally.
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 20 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

By imaginary I mean that I'm sure[*] it works in the lab, which is great if they've got anything in there that requires 15J a day.

[*] When peer reviewed and replicated, of course.
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 20 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha, I think your cynicism is a bit uncalled for here.

Most of the good things in your house will have started in some pathetic, unmarketable form. Household computers and the internet spring to mind.
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 20 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:
Ha, I think your cynicism is a bit uncalled for here.

Most of the good things in your house will have started in some pathetic, unmarketable form. Household computers and the internet spring to mind.


No need to talk about Roger like that. Whistle
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PostPosted: 05:48 - 21 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:


Most of the good things in your house will have started in some pathetic, unmarketable form. Household computers and the internet spring to mind.


What he said.

The applications of this are incredible. Think how much power a nokia 3310 takes to run.

I suspect they will link these with regular batteries to trickle charge constantly. You imagine a phone that charges itself over night.

Or a phone power bank with 50% of the space standard Li battery, and 50% diamond battery.

Could be very handy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 21 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if 0.00017361W is sufficient to power an instrument that could measure 0.00017361W. Thinking
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 21 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Percy. It'll be great if British industry took the lead and raked in the money. Beer would be a penny a pint.

If GE or Siemens don't get their tender in first.

15J doesn't sound like a lot, but a 1kg battery makes that 15kJ.
I'm currently eating a packet of crisps that contains 541kJ, so that battery would have to be 36kg to match this packet of crisps.

BUT in four years that balances out. That 25g packet of crisps would add up to 36kg if one was consumed every day for four years. The crisps have run out, but the battery continues on.
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 21 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's 1kg of nuke-droppings, not 1kg of cell.

How much diamond is in your crisp-battery?
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 21 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

dydey90 wrote:
I'm with Percy. It'll be great if British industry took the lead and raked in the money. Beer would be a penny a pint.

If GE or Siemens don't get their tender in first.

15J doesn't sound like a lot, but a 1kg battery makes that 15kJ.
I'm currently eating a packet of crisps that contains 541kJ, so that battery would have to be 36kg to match this packet of crisps.

BUT in four years that balances out. That 25g packet of crisps would add up to 36kg if one was consumed every day for four years. The crisps have run out, but the battery continues on.


Fuck using kWH as a measure of energy, I propose we petition to make Walkers-years the new SI unit
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 21 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

smegballs wrote:
Fuck using kWH as a measure of energy, I propose we petition to make Walkers-years the new SI unit


Will I get an honourary doctorate in nuclear physics for conjuring the idea?

And will people insist on calling it the Lays-year outside of the U.K.? Because I'm not ok with that.
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