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PostPosted: 21:52 - 20 Mar 2017    Post subject: First "big" bike? Reply with quote

I'm currently completing my a2 licence catagory having not ridden in a few years (last bike was a CBF125) and been doing my lessons and tests on an ER6-N.

Im looking at spending up to 2.5k on my first bike. I'm torn at the moment between the GSX650F and the Bandit 600s. I personally find the GSXF the better looking of the two, but the bandit is significantly cheaper. Do I spend the extra on the bike I want the most or do I buy the cheaper bike and spend the rest on touring and enjoying riding again?

Otherwise does anyone have any alternative ideas for bikes which fit into the a2 Catagory which would be good for touring? I quite fancy going through Europe on it (two up) in July.

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PostPosted: 22:34 - 20 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

The GSX650F is significantly more modern. Water cooling, hydraulic clutch, available with ABS, less likely to need money thrown at it to sort sad suspension or balance carbs.

If I were going touring, especially with a pillion poppet, I reckon I'd splash the cash on as nice an example as I could find, to reduce the risk of a tour turning into a drama.

Try and blag a test ride in stop-start first though, as even the half faired 650 model is (IME) fairly lardy and doesn't carry its weight particularly well.

That said: why not the ER6-F?
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PostPosted: 23:51 - 20 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've sat on an ER-6F and found it a nice bike, however the er6N ive been on at the training school seems a bit twitchy?

I noticed the weight on the GSXF, would that pose problems with the a2 "restriction"?
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PostPosted: 08:56 - 21 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really, unless you plan to drag race up mountain roads. It's more that you won't want to be stopping on a camber, especially with a pillion on the back.

I may be over dramatising a bit because I dropped a brand new Bandit 650 (GSX650F without all the frock), and be misrecollecting just how top heavy it was. I'm only talking at a stop or doing very slow manoeuvres here, extra weight = extra stability on the move.

They're perfectly decent bikes, good value for money (privately, don't pay silly dealer prices) and are one of the few big, faired, sporty looking bikes that are A2 compliant. I don't mean to put you off them, it's a smart buy if you find a good one.
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 21 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Er6 will bore you quickly if you like a bit of pace and ride out regularly. I'd not have kept mine as long as I did if I was
anything but a sunny day rider. The novelty of going for a ride at all even on an ER6 was enough to get me to
ignore the bikes vanilla nature it was however, a good sturdy and easy to get on with bike none the less. But I did get to the
point where I was pinning it all the time so I'd enjoy riding it.
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 21 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

They're perfectly decent bikes, good value for money


What he said.

Yes, they are a bit heavy. Wifie had the 650 with the half fairing and found it heavy. I thought it was fine and certainly a fair bit of get up and go Thumbs Up I preferred it to the ER6-N she has now. She doesn't. Horses for courses and all that.

If you plan on touring the F with the full fairing makes sense.
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PostPosted: 05:08 - 22 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well thankyou very much, looks like I've had all the convincing I needed haha!

I've been sending my other half pictures of the BMW C1 all night (winding her up) so I'm sure she will prefer the 650F

How much should I be looking at spending on a decent model? Bikes seem to be a bit more expensive this year than usual, or is it just me Question

Thanks again Lads Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Karma
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PostPosted: 05:28 - 22 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst I'm here whats the current thing with restricting for an A2 licence?? 60 plus fitting for four washers seems steep. Are people generally still going for the PaddyCert??
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 22 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Price is: eBay, "GSX650F", click Advanced, check "Sold listings".

That's what they're actually changing hands for.

Restriction, dunno. The 650 is fuel injected so it's likely to be a throttle stop rather than washers. 60 for a single bit of metal and an OFFISHAL CERTIFICUT is steep, especially when you consider the possibility that it won't actually restrict to anywhere near to 35kW anyway. Up to you.
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 22 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Price is: eBay, "GSX650F", click Advanced, check "Sold listings".

That's what they're actually changing hands for.

Restriction, dunno. The 650 is fuel injected so it's likely to be a throttle stop rather than washers. 60 for a single bit of metal and an OFFISHAL CERTIFICUT is steep, especially when you consider the possibility that it won't actually restrict to anywhere near to 35kW anyway. Up to you.


Thanks very much Rogerborg! Much appreciated Karma
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 27 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one's opined fazer 600 yet!
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PostPosted: 06:58 - 27 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arguably not quite A2 restrictable.
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