Sister turned ZZR into a 2 stroke.... - Starter Troubles

smegballs · World Chat Champion Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Karma :

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ZZR has an intermittent starting fault. I tried it myself this morning, first time it caught and spun the engine over, 2nd time did the same as in the vid.

Engine isn't turning over, with the loud clatter/hammering noise coming from under the alternator cover (where the starter gears are). Funnily enough she had a new starter clutch put in about a year ago, in that case there was no drive at all, at the starter motor would spin freely but there was no associated noises just no engagement at all.

Hahadumball · World Chat Champion Joined: 07 Oct 2015 Karma :

no idea what it is but pics of sister?
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Teflon-Mike · tl;dr Joined: 01 Jun 2010 Karma :

Is this the same zzr that you were looking to de-rate the rakes on not long back?
The one that was a falorn hope lost cause, your sister didn't have the money either to fix or replace, that she refused to give up on and let 'die' as long as you or your dad could be convinced to find magic cornflake packet fixes, to keep bodging it back into action, on the naive assurance she's only a girl, she'll never use all its potential 150mph performance, so it doesn't matter f the shock's a bit soggy or the brakes not that sharp... tyres are old hard compound budget ones anyway..... ?

ISTR the advice offered THEN, was WALK AWAY!

More you do to try 'help' her, maitain her delusions that she can keep batting her eye-lids and have guys fall over backwards to fulfill her fantasies, and keep bodging her death-trap back into action for her, more of a rod you are making for your own back, perpetuating the 'expectation' she can batt-eye-lids and have blokes bodge death-trap bikes, re-enforce her dilutions, and set YOU up to be the bad-guy 'idiot' when reality smacks her round the face and fact that bike is well beyond bodge-ability has past!

The bike was a 'Non-Starter, long, LONG before the starter motor tarted giving gip! Probably before she even bought the thing IMO, but still...

You know the answer to this one... clattering fro starter area suggests 'something' is amis in that area, and the assembly needs pulling apart and looking at. If new starter clutch fitted a year ago; it suggests that the original fault 'fixed by that replacement was a symptom not a cause, and a year's use has seen new starter clutch effup from same fault NOT fixed, which could be anything from a bearing to the starter motor itself being 'shot'...

I could speculate.... I could offer suggestions for stuff to look at.... BUT, if it is the death Zed of the brakes saga.... DONT thik we'd b doing you or your sister any favors...

Its HER problem, not your's..... if it wont start... she cant ride it... DONT make it your problem A-fucking-Gain! Step back... YOU dont know what's wrong with it... you have to ask here for advice... so tell her YOU don't know what's wrong with it! YOU probably cant fix it! Look at the REST of the bike, and the history, and remind her how much of a falorn hope money pt it was/is... and LEAVE HER to sort it out, and either scrap the dam thing and find a replacement that's not a money-pit death trap, that isn't constantly chucking 'problems' up for other people to sort, and she ca afford to maintain FOR HERSELF... or let her find some other todger to batt her eye-lids at and blame when they run out of cornflake packets and optimism...

Advice TO YOU remains, as before WALK AWAY...

To HER? It's your problem dear.... and bikes don't get fixed with eye-lash curlers but spanners and cold hard cash..... get a dose f reality and either scrap the dam thing and buy a bike you can afford to look after properly, for yourself.... or put th eye-lash curlers down, find some mony, get some spanners and learn to DIY and find out FOR YOURSELF just how far gone this bike is, and get a handle on the size of miracle you are expecting nearest and dearest to perform for you!
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Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

Can you hear the starter motor spinning at all? It's hard to tell from a video, is there any chance that's the starter solenoid clattering rather than the starter gears? If so, have you tried shorting the solenoid terminals?
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WD Forte · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Jun 2010 Karma :

Sounds like the starter clutch rollers bouncng off the boss to me
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Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

But I don't hear the motor whizzing. Might be laptop speakers.
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Fazer Tom · Spanner Monkey Joined: 29 May 2012 Karma :

So your sisters not put a two stoke engine into a zzr frame?

Disapointed.
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