gsxr1100 vs modern thous

[jimbothe]

I had a 7/11 Slingy and did it shift

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[Welshd1k]

[Gsxr1100l]

I've owned many bikes in my time, from Ducati F1 750 extensive engine work, stock cbr954 fireblade (commuter) and a a Gsxr1100 L slingshot ( extensive work done). That being said I've ridden many other bikes r1's, Ducati 848, r6's etc all for on road use. The contentious issue here is rider input and ability.
The newer bikes are so boring with all the latest gadgetry to help the rider ride faster into corners, out of corners, lean angle, traction control just to name a few. I've smoked more new bikes over a mountain than I care to mention and I'm 45 years old. My gsxr1100 L has had major engine work 1201cc, head, crank, carbs, ohlins etc to name a few. It's a sheer pleasure to ride although one twist of that throttle and see ya later to nearly all wanting to try and keep up. The thing is absolutely insane, with as little as 165 rwhp and 225kg it's no easy feat to throw it around like a new bike but in saying that it takes rider input to keep the front wheel down, back wheel in traction and slides that can only be deemed as hell raising. That is what new sports bike lack, everybodies fast on a new bike with all the rider assists to make them feel they can ride. Hop on mine and it's all up to you and that's pure adrenalin and rider skill. Compare a gp500 to a Moto GP bike, sure the new ones are faster but how many can ride it on the limit without all the gadgetry. That's why old school gsxr1100's are a real mans bike, no bullshit and straight up white knuckle balls on the line machines. It takes a real rider to ride them fast not pussies that think they can ride with boring gadgetry.

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[SBK1000]

I am a new owner of a 1989 GSXR1100K. I purchased the bike as a non-running project.

I am actually going to build a Cafe style fighter... I am hoping to remove a lot of dead weight. I am reducing the weight to a bare frame, engine and fuel tank. The bike it's getting a few newer bits... Mostly race parts off a 2008 GSXR1000.

https://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k486/HerpHobbiest/Cafe%20Fighter/17546895_10203144442767595_4758600139744129229_o_zps8bz1mcpn.jpg

Also getting a 2008 GSXR 1000 swing arm (all linkage, rear brakes, etc.), monoblock front calipers, Ferodo ZRAC brake pads, a race shock, modern rear sets, a Cafe Tail section...

https://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k486/HerpHobbiest/Cafe%20Fighter/17362370_10212262915825064_2522491186980808606_n_zps88kq2ny0.jpg

I am not too worried about power, but I do want the bike to run it's best...

Thank you GSXR1100L for your description of what it's like to ride the GSXR1100... I can not wait to ride it!!!
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[Matt B]

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[chickenstrip]

I don't understand this revival of the cafe racer idea, but on more modern bikes. It just doesn't suit them in my view. "Cafe racer" belongs to old Brit iron. Street fighter (a term asking for ridicule), is nevertheless more the one that springs to mind when stripping a once-faired sports bike to a more minimalist look. Most in this category seem to be cheap, after-a-stack dog's dinners, although once in a while someone puts some thought and expenditure in to produce something that doesn't look half bad. But imo, if it was designed as a sports bike with full plastics, then usually it looks better that way.
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[Matt B]

[Billy Balthorpe]

I didnt really want to get into this but the more I read the more I knew I had to reply.

A Streetfighter used to be a thing, it was something you did when you crashed your late 80's faired sportsbike and couldn't afford the plastics to fix it. It has since become a "Style". People are converting their uncrashed bikes to Streetfighter style because they like the look, they also can spend a lot of dosh on them, changing suspension, wheels, etc. These people usually then deride other streetfighters (usually ones based on the original format because the owner is skint) saying that I cant be a Streetfighter because they haven't done enough work/spent enough money on them. But the truth is, they are all either Streetfighters or Streetfighter Style.

A Café racer used to be a thing, it was something you did to get more performance and handling out of your old Brit Iron. Clip-ons, rear sets, swept exhausts, junking all surplus weight, different Frame/engine combo's, etc. It is now a "Style". People are trying to make more modern machinery look like the old Café Racers, a good idea, totally reliable Jap mechanicals with a '60s look. But there is the key term, "with a '60s look", a style, not an original, a new bike with an old style.

In summary,

Streetfighter - A bike that has been crashed and put back on the road as cheaply as possible.

Streetfighter Style - A bike that has usually not been crashed (but could have been, but who wants to spend upwards of £5K on a cat C) but has had lots of cash and hard work thrown at it to make it look like a Streetfighter only better.

Café Racer - Old Brit iron with weight removed and minimalist styling, clip ons, bum stop, changed frame/engines etc.

Café Racer Style - A newer bike made to look like the classic version.

Just to be impartial, I love them all and have no axe to grind here, id love to say I would own any of them, but a leaky old BSA A10 with bodged rear sets etc (which is all the money I would be able to justify spending) does not really appeal.

Right, i'm off to hide behind the sofa.
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