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| Rob Fzs wrote: | https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/28/alt-right-online-poison-racist-bigot-sam-harris-milo-yiannopoulos-islamophobia?CMP=share_btn_tw
so the Guardian put that up the other day, seems they've been trolled to fuck by a guy that spends all his time acting like a sjw, tumblrina https://twitter.com/GodfreyElfwick
They go on about fake news, and then become the largest components of it
Godfrey reminds me of Percy when he first joined bcf.  |
A guy on twitter trolled his way into an interview with an american journalist saying that Pepe the frog was actually an alt right symbol.
This story was them replicated within pretty much all of the CTR mainstream media.
It's not the first time this has happened.
https://archive.is/jXf9A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iu2HXqotKM&feature=share
Resulting in:
https://archive.is/ANjby
https://archive.is/hC4Le
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Facebook use blatant lies on advertising all day long and nobody bats an eyelid.
I often get adverts or pages which apparently friends of mine "like". It's clearly made up going by some of the pages suggested and the people matched to them.
I reckon around 10-20% of the traffic is blatant likejacking scams now. Try reporting an obvious scam (you know, we're giving away 20 X £200K motorhomes) and see if they bother taking it down.
All they give a shit about is traffic for advertising revenue.
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| M.C wrote: | There's enough to go around, no one needs to be living in poverty, but everything's based on greed and consumption. |
Do you imagine that the 1% posses and consume 99 times as much as the 99%?
99 houses, 99 cars, they eat 99 swans a day?
What real, tangible resources would you propose robbing from them to give to the poor?
For the avoidance of doubt, numbers in a spreadsheet are not real or tangible. Give everyone twice as many numbers, and all you're doing is doubling the price of everything, without actually creating one single useful item.
So, non-rhetorically: what rob?
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Where's the massively disagree button? There's enough to go around, no one needs to be living in poverty, but everything's based on greed and consumption. People have gone along with this because they thought they'd get their slice of the pie, but it's reached such absurd levels that won't even happen, and people are waking up to the utterly f**ked (re)distribution of wealth that has really been going on for the last 20-30 years.
I don't think it'll change, more that people won't play the game and it'll all collapse. |
Can I massively disagree with your disagreeing?
In the areas where there are massive poverty and starvation, there are not enough resources to go around, even more so when the thicktards try to have 7 or 8 kids each. The rest of the world has made it worse by artificially propping up a population the land can't provide for. This has been going on for decades, encouraging population growth way beyond the natural limit.
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I agree population control's an issue, but it doesn't render the idea that there's enough to go around moot. Wealth also increases, it's just with globalisation the profits end up in the hands of fewer and fewer people. |
Wealth or money is not necessarily a need for life. Fertile land, water and the ability to grow and produce food is, something lacking in the areas we keep artificially alive and encourage over reproduction by throwing wealth and money at it.
In this case, money is actually causing the deaths. Well done Bob and Bono. Without Western intervention, population numbers would be much lower and survival rates a lot higher.
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| M.C wrote: | | Rogerborg wrote: | What real, tangible resources would you propose robbing from them to give to the poor? |
There would have to be a complete culture change, but people have proven it can be done. Generally successful people reach a point where they feel comfortable, and sell off their business etc., where as other people have restructured diverting the profits to good causes. |
As I said, it's a non-rhetorical question. If you don't know the answer, that's fine, but you can't eat "culture change", and "profit" doesn't keep the rain off of your head.
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About finite resources: It's not just about resources, it's about how much people have to work for their share. It's part of the 'race to the bottom' mentality we all complain about. We hear a lot these days about the loss of the middle classes. Without regulation or 'fairness', everyone ends up scrapping for peanuts while the lucky few sit laughing at the top of the pyramid. And then of course they say this is just the natural order of things - it must be, because they're doing alright out of it!
About overpopulation: Improving quality of life reduces birth rates.
https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-destroys-three-big-myths-about-poverty-2014-1?IR=T
Another interesting factor about overpopulation is that it's a bit of an illusion in some ways. High economic areas end up hyper densely populated so it feels like we have a 'humans problem', but if you go to the sticks you can easily find absolutely tons of space. I've said it on here before - a mate of mine took a masters course in human sustainability, where he learned that apparently the estimate is 11 billion people for maximum earth capacity before we have to rethink our lifestyles (go vegan etc).
I think the current overpopulation argument is due to urbanisation and poor economic management. London is the big example in the UK, and as far as Europe on the whole is concerned, the flux of migration has surely been in an overall north-west direction. (This is why the EU is bad - free movement  )
That's not to say overpopulation it isn't a looming problem though. The solution lies in eradicating poverty, as is alluded to in the link I've given above. |
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| mpd72 wrote: | | M.C wrote: |
I agree population control's an issue, but it doesn't render the idea that there's enough to go around moot. Wealth also increases, it's just with globalisation the profits end up in the hands of fewer and fewer people. |
Wealth or money is not necessarily a need for life. Fertile land, water and the ability to grow and produce food is, something lacking in the areas we keep artificially alive and encourage over reproduction by throwing wealth and money at it.
In this case, money is actually causing the deaths. Well done Bob and Bono. Without Western intervention, population numbers would be much lower and survival rates a lot higher. |
What percentage of the world are actually self-sufficient? Most people, even in poor areas, produce something to sell on to buy other stuff they need. Your solution seems to involve the poor dying, I agree handouts aren't the answer, but I don't think letting people starve to death's either.
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There would have to be a complete culture change, but people have proven it can be done. Generally successful people reach a point where they feel comfortable, and sell off their business etc., where as other people have restructured diverting the profits to good causes. |
As I said, it's a non-rhetorical question. If you don't know the answer, that's fine, but you can't eat "culture change", and "profit" doesn't keep the rain off of your head. |
Investing in the local people/community who are being exploited would be a good start. You seem to be of the opinion you'll be depriving someone else by redistributing wealth, but you wouldn't, it would barely make a dent. |
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| M.C wrote: | Your solution seems to involve the poor dying, I agree handouts aren't the answer, but I don't think letting people starve to death's either. |
Not at all. The only reason people are dying is because interfering do-gooders have encouraged population growth way beyond what the land can support.
When the cash stops and the weather does its usual thing, population outstrips resources and people die unless we artificially prop them up by throwing more cash at them. It will never stop until unsustainable population growth isn't artificially supported.
Without cash and aid donations, they would reproduce to the levels at which the land can sustain and deaths would be much, much lower.
If anyone's to blame for this, it's tits like Geldof for encouraging unsustainable population growth.
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| M.C wrote: | Investing in the local people/community who are being exploited would be a good start. |
Investing what?
| M.C wrote: | You seem to be of the opinion you'll be depriving someone else by redistributing wealth, but you wouldn't, it would barely make a dent. |
I think we're talking at cross purposes about what constitutes "wealth".
Let's see. I live in an impoverished 3rd world hell-hole, and need to be invested in rather than exploited.
So redistribute your car to me. It's OK, it won't deprive you. I'll barely made a dent.
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| mpd72 wrote: | Not at all. The only reason people are dying is because interfering do-gooders have encouraged population growth way beyond what the land can support.
When the cash stops and the weather does its usual thing, population outstrips resources and people die unless we artificially prop them up by throwing more cash at them. It will never stop until unsustainable population growth isn't artificially supported.
Without cash and aid donations, they would reproduce to the levels at which the land can sustain and deaths would be much, much lower.
If anyone's to blame for this, it's tits like Geldof for encouraging unsustainable population growth. |
I think it's more a case of access to birth control than ooh look at all this rice lets breed. It's not like Britain where you're financially rewarded for Britain, having a child's an actual drain and they'd rather not. Didn't we used to have large families only a few generations ago?
| Rogerborg wrote: | | M.C wrote: | Investing in the local people/community who are being exploited would be a good start. |
Investing what?
| M.C wrote: | You seem to be of the opinion you'll be depriving someone else by redistributing wealth, but you wouldn't, it would barely make a dent. |
I think we're talking at cross purposes about what constitutes "wealth".
Let's see. I live in an impoverished 3rd world hell-hole, and need to be invested in rather than exploited.
So redistribute your car to me. It's OK, it won't deprive you. I'll barely made a dent. |
A tiny fraction of the billions corporations make, none of which will ever end up reaching you. |
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