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Simply go and do it. You won't regain confidence by thinking about it too much and stewing over it.
If you're scared of the front brake grab thing then buy a bike with ABS. A full A licence will be much more helpful for you in this regard. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Posted: 16:44 - 02 Apr 2017 Post subject: Re: How To Progress |
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Agreed, wait until you've completed your CBT before you make any decisions.
Tell your training school that you're thinking of doing an A course with them, see if you can blag a quick go on an A training bike. That should help make your mind up.
There's no wrong answer. Plenty of us tooled around on a 125 for a while. Others went straight onto A. We all of us (axiomatically) lived to tell the tale. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Many will disagree, but I'm a big advocate of serving time on a 125 prior to ascending through the power and / or capacity ranks.
I spent about one year on a CG125 after CBT completion and I think there's a lot to be learned from doing so. Granted, they don't have much presence on the road and they don't always make overtakes easy, but I think if you're aware of those sort of things and learn to address them, it'll benefit you.
Even my old CG was good for 65-70mph, which is quicker than most things travel on NSL A roads. Overtakes were very possible, you just had to fully assess situations and plan several steps ahead - is that a bad thing for a rider 'in training'?. I don't think so. Ride in the gutter and traffic will take liberties, sure, but that'd probably be the case on a bigger bike as well if ridden in the same way.
My old man is a highly experienced rider and was always supportive of me getting into bikes from a young age, but always insisted that I 'worked up' through bikes in a progressive kind of way, so I'm undoubtedly biased in what I think is good advice. He always told me to start small and get something bigger when you're comfortable thrashing the smaller thing to bits. I personally think it's insane that someone can go from never having sat on a bike before to being fully licensed and riding a litre superbike in a matter of weeks. The, 'throttle goes both wais, m8' type arguments make me cringe.
Each to their own.
All the best with whatever you decide. ____________________ CG125, CBF250, DRZ400-SM, Z750, Street Triple R, Tuono V4R |
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derillius24 wrote: | I spent about one year on a CG125 after CBT completion and I think there's a lot to be learned from doing so. |
What specific skills can only be learned by limiting yourself to a 125?
Which of them still apply when you're riding something bigger and quicker?
For context, I also spent a year on a 125, and enjoyed it.
However, with hindsight and honesty, it was a waste of time. I did it because it was easy and comfortable, not because it was useful. I could and should have got licensed up ASAP. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I think riding a 125, due to its relative lack of poke, forces you to have to think hard about (and develop) your road-craft and forward planning. It's not that the controls work differently between a CG and a 'Blade, it's that on a 125 you cannot simply rely on power to get you out of trouble.
I believe that having to assess and think hard about everything around you before committing to an overtake, for example, is an incredibly important skill for a new rider to develop and something that is completely transferable to anything ridden in future and I think it's the limited power that makes you have to do this.
If you were on something bigger, say a 500 with 40-50bhp and with virtually no experience, then you mightn't ever go through the diligent planning / thinking processes. Complacency could well set in and there'd be limited forward planning, just 'get out my way, traffic, racebyker comin' through'!
As I say, I know many (most?) disagree but it is the way I've always felt about learning. ____________________ CG125, CBF250, DRZ400-SM, Z750, Street Triple R, Tuono V4R |
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Why wouldn't you learn to plan for using that much power? Non-rhetorically. |
You probably would, eventually, if you're sensible in your approach to learning your craft. My problem though, is that you mightn't ever go through the diligent planning / thinking processes because the power has probably allowed you to get away with every shit overtake you've 'sucessfully completed' i.e. not been killed to death in up until now.
What I'm getting at is a bike with little power, in my opinion, makes you use your head and forward plan more. It did me, anyway. A bike with loadsa go might coax a newer rider into bypassing that bit of the learning process because they feel they've enough power to dispatch anything without much thought. ____________________ CG125, CBF250, DRZ400-SM, Z750, Street Triple R, Tuono V4R |
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I found that riding a 125 on L plates was good for practicing mod 1 maneuvers, U turns & slalom. It's easier on the bigger bikes, so if you learn to master it on a 125, happy days
Even though i managed to crash mine (my own fault for looking at the speedo coming to a sharp bend) I think it benefited me in passing 1st time with minimum lesson hourage! If there is such a word
Plus i enjoyed it on my chinky Skyjet ____________________ Previous Bike: Skyjet SJ27
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Pjay wrote: | I'm getting worried about Tef, he should have been here by now, wearing out another keyboard. |
Probably still typing?
Rogerborg wrote: | What specific skills can only be learned by limiting yourself to a 125?
Which of them still apply when you're riding something bigger and quicker?
For context, I also spent a year on a 125, and enjoyed it.
However, with hindsight and honesty, it was a waste of time. I did it because it was easy and comfortable, not because it was useful. I could and should have got licensed up ASAP. |
Using cars as an example, I presume there are some stats somewhere that say young drivers and high powered cars don't mix too well, hence insurance premiums are sky high/unaffordable
I get what you're saying, and you can still potato yourself on a 125, but they can seem a lot less intimidating for people to learn to ride on ____________________ Rogerborg wrote: It'd certainly make it easier to ego-find my own posts on pages, given the number of fags (gay like traps) who insist on putting my name in their .sig |
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