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Posted: 15:00 - 10 Apr 2017 Post subject: ZZR600 worth a look as a first sportymoto? |
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Posted: 15:11 - 10 Apr 2017 Post subject: |
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They're OK and have a very low and thick seat. It wallows a bit as the suspension isn't so good.
The major problem is people ask too much £££ for them.
On the bay somebody is selling a 2003 ZZR600 for £2300 or 1999 models for £1800.
Considering you can buy a better performing ZX6R B or C models for £1600+
Or a CBR600F4i for £1300-2000.
Both of which are sportier. Unless you can get them very cheap it's not worthy. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Posted: 16:17 - 10 Apr 2017 Post subject: |
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That bike has done 12 miles between June 2008 and April 2016. |
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Posted: 18:18 - 10 Apr 2017 Post subject: |
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Ste wrote: | That bike has done 12 miles between June 2008 and April 2016. |
And the MOT expires in 8 days.
It could be a garage queen, it certainly looks shiny enough.
Breaking Bikes wrote: | ZZR 600E
V Reg. very clean for age. Less than 7400 miles. Original pipes. just a good solid Jap 4 with a good bit of poke. Wolf on sheeps clothing. suprising turn of speed. will come with a full years MOT
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If it's properly mint and you were sure you were going to keep it for years, maybe. It's not insane money for a dealer bike.
But no private buyer is going to give you that much for it if it doesn't suit. It's too expensive for a bargain, and too ZZR for an Appreciating Classic.
Irrespective of any Mate's MOT, I'd want to check the suspension for sadness, that the tyres aren't too-old-for-Robby, the chain for seized links, that the carbs aren't clogged or out of sync (I'd expect "Yeah, mate, just needs ridden.") and that the exhaust system and tank aren't rusting from the inside out. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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i've got one. had it a few years now. I sold it at one point for a year, then contacted the owner to see if he'd sell it back to me. after some nagging, he agreed.
mine's a 1993 E1 model. it's had a grand total of 0 problems over the course of about 35k miles i've ridden it. changed the rear shock as they are a bit slack (and it was old) just because a mate found one with an uprated spring on it for me for a cheap price.
I'm 5'9 and it's probably the perfect size for me, I can flat foot it with knees bent. that said, a friend had one before me, he's 6'2 and also said it was comfiest bike he's had, so it's not small.
it is a big heavy bike, but it carries it's weight nice and low so it's easy to manoeuvre about on foot and at low speed, and it provides vast stability at high speeds.
it's a hugely versatile bike, and I'm not sure it's yet been matched for value/versatility by anything. as others have said, theyre cheap as chips. but razor sharp handling is really their only weakness, being softer and a little baggy, but that said, so long as you don't expect to go to a track day and keep up with the latest wrist-crushing sports machines, it's perfectly adequate on the road.
I'd recommend one to absolutely anyone who'll listen as I think it's a great bike. I'd like to replace it at some stage with something modern with fuel injection etc... but I'm not entirely sure what will do everything like my zzr does with the all day comfort I have and for bargain basement prices... ____________________ CBT - 17/09/12 * Theory - 23/10/12 * Mod1 - 05/03/13 * Mod2 - 25/03/13 * BOSH!
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Past - ER5, '93 ZZR600, '92 CB400 SF, ZZR600 (again), yellow Monster 620, Blackbird - black Monster 620ie - '96 ZZR600 |
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I love mine, had it about four years now and repaired it a couple of times following two incidents.
Good bikes, good all rounder but a bit heavy compared to modern machines.
Being a sports touring bike the riding position is more relaxed than, say a ZX6-R, I've used mine to commute for the past four years all year round without any issues, running michelin PR2 tyres which seem to do well. Gone through a few chains and sprockets and brake pads as you'd expect, and a couple of reg/recs but nothing much else of note.
they are old bikes so shocks sometimes are a bit saggy - mine was replaced with insurance money after I was rear-ended, just got to keep the shock linkage greased (4 grease nipples under it)
main thing when test riding is to find a good stretch of road and set off in 1st, get moving, change up into 2nd and accelerate hard
If it jumps out of gear, you don't want the bike. other than that it's just general mechanical stuff to look out for. ____________________ Looking to pass your CBT / Bike tests in Bury Lancashire? try www.focusridertraining.co.uk Would recommend.
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Comfort is subjective.
Some people find sports bike really uncomfortable to ride because of the leaning forward position and the amount of weight you're putting on your wrists.
Other people can ride quite happily for hundreds of miles in a day and then do it all again the next day with no complains.
Go to some dealers and sit on some bikes to find out what you do and don't like. Then bend over for them to sell you one on a PCP deal. |
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jjdugen wrote: | Although I love 'em to bits, despite the caveats already mentioned, it seems that CBR600's are now coming into the same bargain basement cost / speed equation. Of the two, the Honda does everything the z does with better handling, looks and build quality.
Each have their Achilles heels, especially with age and multiple owners, but on balance, I'd go looking for one of Mr. Honda's products. |
I'd agree with that, but found cbr was a little more sporty riding position, where zzr is more upright riding position making it more comfortable... if riding around all day in comfort is a priority. if you aren't that fussed or not prone to aches and pains then agree, the cbr might be better bet ____________________ CBT - 17/09/12 * Theory - 23/10/12 * Mod1 - 05/03/13 * Mod2 - 25/03/13 * BOSH!
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Rogerborg wrote: | ocatoro wrote: | it carries it's weight nice and low |
Relative to what other 220kg sports/sports tourer bike? |
compared totally subjectively with with similar bikes... 95 reg cbr, 90s thundercat, rf900, and a blackbird
just sitting on them and moving them about when off them, to me they felt more top heavy than the zzr which to me feels like it's all very low down and easy to move and ride.
as i said though, this is subjective and possibly to do with my leg length, height, all sorts of things ____________________ CBT - 17/09/12 * Theory - 23/10/12 * Mod1 - 05/03/13 * Mod2 - 25/03/13 * BOSH!
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 3 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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