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Northern Monkey |
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Posted: 21:30 - 18 Apr 2017 Post subject: |
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Teflon-Mike wrote: | Bubbs wrote: | I'll take a look at tidlers too. Avoided due to poor top end... although I'm happy with 60-65 mph, don't need more than that, just don't want the same experience as the YBR I used to own, boring as shit and didn't trust it to not low side with it's skinny wheels. |
YBR's tyres are notorious.. it's not the width, its the rock-hard, never wear out budget economy compound of the OE fit originals!!
Narrow rubber, is actually a positive advantage, technically speaking.
The area of rubber in contact with the floor is irrelevent to the 'grip', which is pretty much dependent only on the force pushing the tyre |
It's like alternative physics, which is a bit like physics, but the answers are different. It's demonstrably incorrect. The area in contact makes a huge difference to the level of mechanical grip ____________________ Fisty: after polishing the tank with the glistenng beads of sweat from my full hot scrotum, I filled the headrace bearings with 10cc of my manmilk |
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Rogerborg nimbA
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Posted: 22:14 - 18 Apr 2017 Post subject: |
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I think Bubbs has to be held partially complicit. He knew the risks. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Posted: 09:06 - 19 Apr 2017 Post subject: |
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Northern Monkey wrote: | It's like alternative physics, which is a bit like physics |
Oh, sure, "colonial" physics, shitlord.
Northern Monkey wrote: | The area in contact makes a huge difference to the level of mechanical grip |
Pram-wheeled dragsters, their day will come. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Posted: 15:49 - 20 Apr 2017 Post subject: |
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You're a tart, is what you are. Pick one and put your ring on it. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Posted: 03:53 - 21 Apr 2017 Post subject: |
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Seriously, Fazer 600 is what you want.
Cost? £1000-1800
Economical? Average 50mpg out of mine.
Tax? £60/year
Insurance? TPFT with 4yr NCD in Romford pikey central postcode - £150.
Fun? 95bhp. 120mph odd if you push it. It's a fav for many wheelie schools. And has brakes to keep up too with dual disc, blue spot 4 pot calipers straight off Fazer Thou/R6.
Commuter? Agile, tight turning circle, narrow and foldable mirrors - perfect for cutting through London traffic.
Touring? 2002-2003 models will do 230miles on full tank. Pillion seat is big, comfy, decent grab rail. Plenty of luggage options, though wing rack is bit hard to come by.
Maintenance/repairs? Parts are plentiful, even brand new painted fairing are only £200 direct from Yamaha!
I commute daily into London on mine, tear up Essex backroads at weekends, do two up, tours of Wales, track days - the Fazer is great at all.
Downsides? It's gonna be hit by the new London ULEZ in 2019. At this age, original downpipes would have rotted at bottom (~£250 for stainless replacements), back shock will be tired (Hagon replacement £300), forks seals/oils and brake should have been replaced. Also, original rear brake caliper is bit pants and often seizes up. FZS1000 blue spot caliper can be retrofitted though. No ABS. Awkward 110/70 front tyre limits choice somewhat.
Definitely a top all rounder. Most other choices will either be more money, less power, worse tank range or pants for pillion/touring. ____________________ Beginner Biker Adventures Blog
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B5234FT Brolly Dolly
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To be fair, the OP can easily get an Enfield in his budget, I love riding my Enfield, and yes it is fun riding, and returns a healthy mpg, however, probably not the sort of fun bike the OP is thinking about, but on the off chance it is ..
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Royal-Enfield-Bullet-500cc-Classic-Bike-500-/262941253312?hash=item3d38851ec0:g:PjkAAOSwmCVY9QbC
or
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Royal-Enfield-Bullet-350-Trials-bike-/162480086880?hash=item25d4915f60:g:ny0AAOSwRUhY9jxN
Why not look at a Honley (Zhongshen) RX-3
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honley-RX-3-Venturer-Adventure-Bike-/282432696845?hash=item41c24cf20d:g:NSQAAOSwB-1Y7-K8
or
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honley-Motor-RX3-250cc-Adventure-Cruiser-Commuter-Motorcycle-/162420686567?hash=item25d106fee7:g:g-cAAOSw4CFYvUQQ
It will keep up with motorway traffic, is nimble, granted it has a very optimistic speedo, I ride mine in any weather, and as yet haven't had a problems, and, although the luggage boxes are quite small, you'd be surprised just how much shopping you can fit in them !!
There is also the WK Trail 400 (Shineray X5) has the same engine as the Mash 400 that I have, nice reliable engine, but, personal choice, I would probably stick with the Zhongshen for this style of bike, if, of course you can't stretch to a CB500X ____________________ Beware what photos you upload, or link to on here, especially if you have family members on them |
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Posted: 12:40 - 21 Apr 2017 Post subject: |
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linuxyeti wrote: | To be fair, the OP can easily get an Enfield in his budget |
I'd been avoiding suggesting it, but they do tick the high mpg and leafy-lane-larks boxes.
However, Bubb's budget is ideally under £1500 and they don't often come down that low in working form.
Worth considering though, if one comes up cheaply enough.
linuxyeti wrote: | Why not look at a Honley (Zhongshen) RX-3 |
Because you can get an Inazuma 250 for about the same money, there are only about 50 RX-3s in the country, it'll be more of a risk ("our parts team will contact you in due course with price and availability of what you require") and might prove hard to sell on for more than sweetie money. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Perhaps a valid point to degree, however, Honley are still selling them, they even have the latest spec ones in stock, but to be fair, parts are a doddle to get hold of, the mesh reuseable oil filters etc being a good example, for stuff like that, you may just need to be a little less narrow minded as to where you order from..
The only thing Suzuki about the inazuma is the badge, it's actually a Haojue manufactured bike !! Still, I see they've announced the GSX250R with ABS .., Anyhow, going off topic, and that's likely to be outside the OP price range ____________________ Beware what photos you upload, or link to on here, especially if you have family members on them |
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Posted: 15:23 - 21 Apr 2017 Post subject: |
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linuxyeti wrote: | Honley are still selling them |
Well, offering them for sale.
Granted, there's only a whisker over 1000 Inazumas in the UK and they're not being sold any longer, but if the RX-3 ever hits 1/10th of that number, I'll eat my lid.
linuxyeti wrote: | parts are a doddle to get hold of |
Today. The thing about parts is that you need them when you need them. Having had two Chinese bikes and an Indian one, ongoing parts availability remains a concern of mine.
linuxyeti wrote: | The only thing Suzuki about the inazuma is the badge |
That's all that's needed to find a buyer though.
I like the idea of the RX-3, it's the sort of bike I might take a punt on myself. But as a 2nd or 3rd machine, not as an only choice at the limit of my budget. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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It's Honley ..
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=honley+motorcycles ____________________ Beware what photos you upload, or link to on here, especially if you have family members on them |
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Posted: 17:02 - 21 Apr 2017 Post subject: |
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I read as far as Chinese motorcycle manufacturer. ____________________ Life begins at the end of your comfort zone. |
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Posted: 18:35 - 21 Apr 2017 Post subject: |
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Bubbs wrote: |
I read as far as Chinese motorcycle manufacturer. |
You're a product of the Welsh education system, it's a wonder you got that far in a foreign language.
The bikes are probably as good as anything coming out of "Japan" or "Europe" these days (i.e. China), the problem is the risk of a self sealing stem bolt unsealing and being unable to find a replacement anywhere, then the bike being worth its weight in ... well, monkey steel. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 3 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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