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PostPosted: 13:50 - 19 Apr 2017    Post subject: Re: Valves Wearing? Reply with quote

Falco wrote:
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Hang on, if they are that bad (tight) you wouldn't be able to get a feeler in there at all. Not mixing metric and imperial measurements by any chance are you? What measurements are you actually getting with the old shims?


Why wouldn't I be able to get a feeler in? For the 1st exhaust valve with a clearance of 0.178mm, a shim size of 0.210 and a specified clearance of 0.260, gives a replacement shim size of 0.130. I can easily get a 0.15 feeler into that gap.

The measurements:

https://i63.tinypic.com/2jfysyx.jpg



Ok fair enough, tbh I've only dealt with shim over bucket before and those are big items by comparison. At .130 mm your talking about a 5 thou shim (sorry struggle to think metric in these things.)
Like Fizzer says though might be worth checking the valve profile to see if new will help or just do the best you can for now and keep a look out for a newer head.
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 23 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fizzer Thou wrote:
It may well be that the valves are like this and worn unevenly (new valve on the right)

https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/Workshop/CIMG2957.jpg

The new valves were lapped in and gave a perfect seal.Sometimes the seats need to be recut,but in this instance it was not necessary Thumbs Up


Even thinking about putting new valves in seemed like a hugely scary job, but looking at the procedure, its not actually too bad. But at £230 just for the parts just putting a new engine in seems like it might be easier (which seems crazy but there you are).

A100man wrote:
Ok fair enough, tbh I've only dealt with shim over bucket before and those are big items by comparison. At .130 mm your talking about a 5 thou shim (sorry struggle to think metric in these things.)
Like Fizzer says though might be worth checking the valve profile to see if new will help or just do the best you can for now and keep a look out for a newer head.



I found the problem, it wasn't the measuring of the clearances (which was correct), it was the calculations for replacement shims Embarassed Consistently dropped the decimal point when subtracting clearances from the shim sizes Doh! Using the correct method, no shim needed was below 1.90mm, so though they have all closed up, it's not by much. Wasted the entire weekend before I figured it out but no one to blame but myself.

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PostPosted: 23:47 - 23 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Falco wrote:

I found the problem, it wasn't the measuring of the clearances (which was correct), it was the calculations for replacement shims Embarassed Consistently dropped the decimal point when subtracting clearances from the shim sizes Doh! Using the correct method, no shim needed was below 1.90mm, so though they have all closed up, it's not by much. Wasted the entire weekend before I figured it out but no one to blame but myself.

Cheers for the advice


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PostPosted: 00:24 - 24 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hong Kong Phooey wrote:
Falco wrote:

I found the problem, it wasn't the measuring of the clearances (which was correct), it was the calculations for replacement shims Embarassed Consistently dropped the decimal point when subtracting clearances from the shim sizes Doh! Using the correct method, no shim needed was below 1.90mm, so though they have all closed up, it's not by much. Wasted the entire weekend before I figured it out but no one to blame but myself.

Cheers for the advice


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Entirely apt. Entirely.
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 24 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Falco wrote:
Using the correct method, no shim needed was below 1.90mm,..

Cheers for the advice


Aha, that sound more like it! Well done for reporting back (you dunce) Wink
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