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![Post Post](templates/standard/images/icon_minipost.gif) Posted: 13:29 - 24 Apr 2017 Post subject: |
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The conclusion I have come to is that most of the time when I'm on tour, there isn't a particularly high risk of theft in the places I go. If I'm going to a place where I think there is a risk - large towns and cities for example - I try to check that any hotel I book has secure parking facilities, or at least somewhere I can leave it that is out of sight.
When I've used campsites in the UK, I've just used a disc lock, and accepted a small level of risk, but usually, it isn't left unattended for long.
I was a bit concerned at a campsite right in the city of Florence, when a friend and I left our bikes there unattended for a day while we explored the city. Again, I just put a disc lock on it, and decided not to worry.
I think there are some places where you just can't mitigate against theft risk entirely, and I'm damned if I'm going to take a heavy, bulky chain and lock with me.
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I always worked on the 'never leaving it too long' or 'in a hotel carpark' when I was touring abroard.
In maybe 20 years of touring I never had any issues, although nowadays I would certainly want a secure hotel carpark in a city.
Make sure your insurance is good for theft when abroad even if you have to add extra for the time and then just be sensible. ![Thumbs Up](images/smiles/thumb_up.gif) ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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Thanks, makes sense.
I'm probably overthinking it - I do quite a lot of that ![Shocked](images/smiles/icon_eek.gif) ____________________ KC100->CB100N->CB250RS--------->DL650AL2->R1200RS->R1250RS |
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Without wanting to completely hijack the thread, I was just wondering what people would recommend as a good disk lock ![Thumbs Up](images/smiles/thumb_up.gif) ____________________ Riding: Yamaha MT-09 Tracer Occasionally Riding: 08 Suzuki SV650, Potato: 2011 Yamaha YBR Custom.
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I'd just choose hotels that have secure parking if I'm anywhere near a large town or city. Then, if I want to explore said town/city, I'd leave the bike at the hotel and go in by public transport or on foot if it's close enough. I don't go touring to get caught up in city traffic jams anyway, and I don't want to spend a day walking around in bike kit either, or having to find a safe solution for locking it up with the bike. If my tour is all about sight-seeing in cities, I probably wouldn't even go by bike in the first place. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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It doesn't really help much. I have been thinking about carrying a chain and lock, but not sure how I'd conveniently do so with the luggage set-up I'm taking: Kriega US30, with a US20 mounted on top. I don't want to put a dirty, heavy chain in with my other stuff, and can see no way of securing one safely on top. I don't want to use my tank bag, as it then becomes too much to cart in and out of hotels, with all the faff of loading it all on the bike again at each move. With the Kriega stuff as noted, I can carry it all about in one lump on a shoulder strap. Still inclined to trust to hotel parking and a disc lock. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Like the UK, it depends what area you are in. The risk is higher in big towns and cities.
Many hotels, B&Bs etc will provide secure parking, sometimes at an additional cost. Many of the smaller places will move their own vehicles out of their garage to accommodate your bike.
I toured for many years before moving out here, often leading big groups. We usually stayed at accommodation known to be popular with bikers so any potential thief would know there was a good chance of bikes being there overnight. Never experienced a problem or heard of a problem in any of the places we stayed at. Not saying it doesn't happen and I do see from time to time incidents of theft mentioned on Touring Forums.
I use a PacSafe for temporary safe storage of gear and equipment when I am sight seeing away from the bike. Used to carry a chain and padlock but never really used it and don't bother now.
Maybe if I was going in to a city I would take one but I tend to avoid them these days.
My previous occupation in the UK made me well aware of the risks and likelihood of theft of and from bikes. I just don't get that feeling out here. In our area deliberate vehicle crime is virtually non existent. ____________________ A Petrol Head in The Alps
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I'd be very surprised if there was much in the way of any kind of crime where you are, Ali. But on my planned upcoming tour, I will be staying in large towns on a couple of occasions. The hotels I have booked there have secure parking, so I'm not too concerned in those places, but it depends on where I go after the pre-booked part of my tour.
Having used the F1 chain in France, they're often in not such nice parts of towns and cities, although even those vary security-wise. In Charleville, it didn't feel too secure, but at least the bikes couldn't be seen from any road. In Lyon, they have a secure car park where you use your room number to access it via a coded entry box. The one in Villeneuve-Loubet (near Cannes) had that facility too.
But it's when you're booking on the fly that you wonder if it might be a good idea to take a chain and lock, especially for hotels that might be on a transit route between the places you want to explore. But I just don't have a convenient way to carry one securely on the bike. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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On my CBR I can fit a 0.8m chain under my seat.
On my other bikes that simply had no underseat storage (XT600, NTV, CB500) commuting I would simply wrap the chain around the rear grab rail and it would hold fine.
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No hard luggage, and definitely not enough room for under seat storage.
The luggage set-up I'll have is this:
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plus a smaller Kriega on top of that one. There are grab rails on either side of the seat, but the bags will be between them, and anyway, I don't want a chain banging around on the tail piece.
It occurs to me I might be able to fasten it around the top bag however. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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