KTM Duke 390 - 950 miles usage how much? Quite a bit to this

[DottyDuck]

Bonjour BCF humans!! I am hoping you can assist me in what has been a horrendous experience. In brief: I have had issues with my KTM Duke 390 ever since buying it. The dealership has had 2 opportunities to fix it and have failed on both occasions they also were meant to make repairs to the frame and engine guards which they scratched and to put it bluntly they may as well not have bothered.

With all of that I spoke to the finance, and they were not helpful and basically fobbed me off. Thankfully the financial ombudsman have been great and the finance company have agreed to the proposal presented. Within this proposal it states that I will get money back for the motorbike minus the mileage which is 950 miles.

So basically I paid 3.5k for the bike and it has 950 miles. At the time the bike was brand new and the dealer knocked 1k of the RRP. I have seen a couple of Duke 390s that are older than my bike with less milage which are selling for totals which is less than £100 which i paid. I have also seen bikes of the same age which are selling for 3.5K with less mileage. There is a couple, although they are rare but they are out there, which are selling for more than £3500 and have less milage. I have said this to the investigator and she says that I still used the motorbike to get 950 miles and therefore some money will be taken off.

So, how much do you think is fair?


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[Val]

[stevo as b4]

Is it me or do KTM sound a bit Chinese bike manufacturer and distributor like?

They seem to discount a fair bit or sell bikes at reduced prices, but then offer sweet fuck all dealer comeback or warranty support afterwards maybe?

I see the KTM 125EXC is about £5500 otr, which though is £1000 ish more than a Yamaha WR125R, is also noticeably cheaper than some 125cc enduro or motard bikes.

Not sure what I'd pick, as though you get alot more bike in an EXC than a WR125R for £1k more, the Yamaha might hold more value for longer and be in much higher demand due to a big name dealer network and support, and also because it's legal for all licence categorys, so used demand should be far higher. Most people buying say a 5year old KTM125, would expect it to have had serious use and be ready for a full bike rebuild, in the same way as a well used/raced 5year old MX bike is pretty well fit for scrap or sinking a fortune into to fix uneconomically.

[DottyDuck]

[Rogerborg]

[ScaredyCat]

How long have you had it?

Is this a 2016 bike?

2016, 1,164 miles, £3,350

2016, 2,922 miles, £3,794
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HMRC set the rates at 24p per mile (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/rates-and-allowances-travel-mileage-and-fuel-allowances/travel-mileage-and-fuel-rates-and-allowances) for claiming business use off tax which also includes fuel as well as wear and tear. So based off this you could argue £228.

Or you could look at those 950 miles in terms of hire bike prices and get no money back... Hmm..
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[M.C]

[Rogerborg]

[B5234FT]

I'd take a look at your finance agreement and see what the excess mileage charge is and start there. For cars its generally 6-8p per mile. On that basis, you'll be looking at £80 in mileage.

I suspect however, you wont get that lucky! Whilst I agree with your position and they should take the whole hit and not leave you out of pocket, various parties will be trying to reduce their (substantial) losses.

Out of interest, what exactly is wrong with it?

[Rogerborg]

[M.C]

[B5234FT]

Ah i missed the comment about scratches and wondered wtf they were repairing on the frame of a 1000 mile old bike!

[Copycat73]

[DottyDuck]

Thank you for all the replies

[stevo as b4]

Tell them you want a proper KTM in exchange, one that's built in the real factory and has had all the £ spent on development. The new fuel injected range of 2stroke 250/300's would be where I'd be pointing as I throw them the keys.

[DJP]

Can't you simply reject the bike as "Unfit for purpose"?

Really, why should you be out of pocket at all?

(Saying that, I'd probably take a £500 hit just to be rid of the fecker...)
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[DottyDuck]

[Rogerborg]

tl;dr version so far:

Dotty: Bike is dangerous to ride.
Dealer: If you don't die it might get better.
Dotty: Okely dokely!

I need closure on this anecdote. Did you die?
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[DottyDuck]

[Rickymc]

Hahahahahahahaahahahha

[owl]

[Rogerborg]

The Duke 125 hilarity-fail thread had an Indian resident claiming that the 200s are made to higher standards than the 390s.

I mention this an something that's interesting rather than informative. It's a nation that keeps buying Royal Enfields, after all.
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