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Nobby the Bastard Harley Gaydar
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Definately trowbridge... ____________________ trevor saxe-coburg-gotha:"Remember this simple rule - scooters are for men who like to feel the breeze on their huge, flapping cunt lips."
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For a 125 the Vara's quite heavy Nearly 170kg I believe, where I think CG's/YBR's are 125-130kg. |
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winz World Chat Champion
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Posted: 23:22 - 08 May 2017 Post subject: |
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Great news that you're getting used to it
Regarding the whole front/rear brake fiasco going on. I only really use the rear brake for slow speed and if I am going into a corner a little too hot. Otherwise front brake all the way. Although this is all null and void as my brakes are linked on the Blackbird. ____________________ Current Bikes: BMW K1200S
Previous: Honda CBR929RR, Honda CBR1100XX, Honda CB600F |
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trevor saxe-coburg-gotha World Chat Champion
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M.C wrote: | Nearly 170kg . |
trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote: |
Haha!! Holy shit - did Honda use bar for the frame rather than tube?? |
Bikez put it at 152Kg dry. (other sources quote 'close' if not the same)
So, perhaps not quite as bad, as suggested, but still on the porky side... And the 'wet' weight,probably isn't far off, when filled with fluids, given it's water-cooled for starters, but probably more significantly, has a four and a half gallon fuel tank!
DAT be big! Crikey I don't think that my 750 holds that much! Snowies certainly doesn't! But, MCN suggest it only manages about (I assume 'average'!) 65mpg, though so maybe it needs it! (Uses more fuel than my 750!!)
Petrol weighs about 0.75Kg/liter, and the Vera takes just shy of 17l So a full tank of petrol adds over 12Kg to the all-up weight. I dont know how much cooling water it'll hold, I wouldn't expect much more than a couple of litres, or Kg, so fuel will be the largest bit of any discrepancy between dry and kerb and wet weights. Kerb weights normally only use a 1/2 full petrol tank as 'average', but even a 'wet' weight fully fueled, would be stretching to to get up to 170Kg... but still... it's close a bludy nuff!
Hefty beast for a tiddler! And 'tis a bulky thing , with that adventure sport styling trying to hide how weeny the engine actually is, and the Center-of-Gravity lifted unnecessarily high to suit. (Seat height over 31"!)
For comparison, Bikez put the air-cooled CB125TD 'twin', at 114Kg 'dry', the air-cooled single, CG125 at 99Kg; both of which will have lighter kerb-weights thanks to not needing to be filled with water, and not having such a gargantuan fuel tank, only around 3-gallons, and quoted MPG's for either commonly around the 100 mark!!
Did you ever measure the mpg you got from your CB125? I've offered suggestion often enough that I can see ours down in the 70's, if I'm a little err... 'enthusiastic'. Snowie, has tended to get much better and usually averaged something in the 90's, when she's been watching it for work... So 65mpg from the Vera? Looks rather dire, but? It is a heavy bike, it does have a lot of bulk; it is tall and has wide bars, and little engine probably takes some thrashing to keep the plot hustling; it could be that low, on average, given stop-start round the houses work, dragging possible down, and the frontal area, not seeing it lift much or any when you try holding highway speeds.
Always been a bike I have struggled to recommend, despite its fan-base. It was probably THE most expensive 125 in the show-rooms when new, which was at least 8 years ago , unless you buy-grey. (MCN quote £4.5K! About as much as a CB500 would have been stickered up at next to it on the sales floor!) It's also one of the most mechanically convoluted and intricate; and with so much mechanical 'hidden' beneath the styling; its major saving grace has been the original build quality of a flag-ship model, and price that has discouraged less mature / affluent buyers, so they have tended not to be as sore used as so many cheaper 125', but, with so much more mechanics, so much more out-of-sight-out-of-mind, and hence likely to be ignored or neglected until something goes wrong, they are, as even the youngest approach the end of their presumed normal service life of 7-10 years, to my mind a grenade looking for somewhere to happen! A rather heavy grenade!
Got to give the girl credit for picking the thing back up and getting back on it! (Memo-to-Self; Avoid Zomerzet! Not sure I want to tackle militant woman irked at feeling patronized, who can bench-press a 125 Vera!) ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?' |
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Solo lift an R1200GS using the power of girly backsides. I believe that's very nearly as heavy as your 'dearo. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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It's amazing what you can pick up, against a slope, when petrol is pissing out all over the place and there's no one around to help ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Fazer thou, wet weight approx 230kgs
I was in Wales, and badly strained my dodgy shoulder doing it. Fortunately, the bike hadn't come down on top of me - it just got away from me while stupidly trying to turn round on a steep slope, and I couldn't hold it up. Went back to the campsite for the night, and took MANY painkillers to get me back home to London next day!
I am certain if I tried again, I couldn't do it. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 10:40 - 15 May 2017 Post subject: |
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One of Tef's more lucid comments is: stop thinking, start riding.
That's really about all there is to it. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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SomersetWolf wrote: | Had such a lovely little pootle on the bike today. Only third time out and I relaxed, tried not to over-think, kept my head up and pointed my chin where I wanted to go and most importantly didn't panic. Having read so so so many posts about nervous newbies (here and elsewhere) I finally decided just to breathe and to enjoy. And it seemed to work. Whoop. |
Well done, that's the first and main barrier cracked. It's like learning anything new really. Some frustration to begin with; "Why can't I do this?!" and then it just clicks.
Next barrier: Oh no, I can't ride a big bike! Yes, you can. It's easier than riding small bikes. Not that a Varadero is particularly small physically - so you're half way there already ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 33 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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