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Enough of this bollocks about the privatisation of the NHS being the fault of the current Tories. It was started during the New Labour years.
Thatch had already had a go with her big jackboots with the unions and the privatisation of state industries that should have stayed government-run (trains, telephones) She didn't dare fuck about with the NHS. She may have been a bossy cow but she wasn't dumb enough to fuck about with the NHS.
I put the blame for that squarely down at the door of Mr Blair and his scummy friends (oh, did I mention the still-whiter-than-white Mr Branson yet?)
Although I will contend that no government since has rushed to make matters any better
Probably I should go to bed whlst I can still see.
I don't often get political, it's not my natural thing.
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Can thank Burnham for that ____________________ Mpd72: I can categorically say i’m Brighter than that, no matter how I come across on here.
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Jewlio Rides Again wrote: | Somne unaffordable never never bullshit promises, which Labour know they can make because they'll never have to actually put them into action and find funding for them |
They could promise the moon on a stick if they want, because they know they will never get in this time around, so will never have to keep up on the false promises.
They're playing to the hard of thinking by promising freebies for everyone. Every voter daft enough to fall for it, is one less for a Tory majority. That's their plan, they know full well they will never have to meet these promises.
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Lord Percy wrote: | I've fallen for propaganda bullshit |
It's not Rees-Mogg's wifes house, it's his mother in laws property.
Quote: | Politicians involved with the campaign to save the stately home say they had no idea of Mr Rees-Mogg’s personal attachment to the property. “I am not sure he’s ever been to Rotherham but we’d be glad to see him here,” said John Healey, the local Labour MP. Robert Jenrick, the Conservative MP and heritage specialist, said Mr Rees-Mogg had “played no part in our lobbying of the chancellor”. |
The work is to put right the damage caused by subsidence because the labour Party in 1946 opened a coal mine in the grounds and under the house.
With regards to the "Worst Cyber attack ever, purely on the NHS", that's also bollocks too. The ramsomware attack was not targeting the NHS, it has hit over 99 countries and PC's from all walks of life.
The initial infection will be transmitted most likely by email and can hit all PC's, even Windows 10 ones. The bullshit Al Beeb and the rest are pedalling, is pure propaganda to try to make a dig at the Tories over NHS funding (like you've just fallen for).
They have taken a report saying 9 out of 10 Trusts still use XP and played it out as if XP is widespread within the NHS, so will be vulnerable to the way this virus, once on a PC within a network can use SMB1.0 to spread across all PC's Windows 7, Vista and XP, if unpatched.
Whilst 9 out of 10 Trusts may still have a handful of XP boxes, these are most likely to control old legacy equipment where the manufacturer never released updates after XP. Most of these boxes will be stand alone and not on a network anyway.
The media have certainly egged this one up. So far, with around 300 PC's on my remote software platform alone, I have not heard of one single infection.
With regards to this cobblers... Quote: | - The Conservatives have been the biggest borrowers over the last 70 years |
You understand what a deficit is I take it? So what happens to total borrowing when you inherit a record deficit? When will total borrowing start coming down? ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Jewlio Rides Again wrote: | mpd72 wrote: |
The work is to put right the damage caused by subsidence because the labour Party in 1946 opened a coal mine in the grounds and under the house. |
The labour party personally?
Why should they get money, I live in a mining town where subsidence due to mining is common, nobody else gets money to sort it out. |
Apparently, according to the FT article...
Quote: | Its ill-repair dates from the post-war Labour government’s decision to allow coal mining in the gardens after the nationalisation of the coal industry in 1945. |
His mother in law doesn't really own it either, more propaganda lies...
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The Fitzwilliams moved out in 1946 and the house was put into a family trust. Lady Juliet Tadgell, the only child of the earl and now Mr Rees-Mogg’s mother-in-law, inherited the family fortune but not the home. She is one of the trustees of the Wentworth Woodhouse Preservation Trust, which has raised £7m to acquire the house. |
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mpd72 wrote: | Jewlio Rides Again wrote: |
The labour party personally?
Why should they get money, I live in a mining town where subsidence due to mining is common, nobody else gets money to sort it out. |
Apparently, according to the FT article...
Quote: | Its ill-repair dates from the post-war Labour government’s decision to allow coal mining in the gardens after the nationalisation of the coal industry in 1945. |
His mother in law doesn't really own it either, more propaganda lies...
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The Fitzwilliams moved out in 1946 and the house was put into a family trust. Lady Juliet Tadgell, the only child of the earl and now Mr Rees-Mogg’s mother-in-law, inherited the family fortune but not the home. She is one of the trustees of the Wentworth Woodhouse Preservation Trust, which has raised £7m to acquire the house. |
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Oh, so not the labour Party, they only allowed the mining there. I see. An excuse to kick them is it?
So, why should they get any money, when there's a number of houses in my town suffering subsidence and get fuck all? ____________________ Mpd72: I can categorically say i’m Brighter than that, no matter how I come across on here.
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Jewlio Rides Again wrote: | Oh, so not the labour Party, they only allowed the mining there. I see. An excuse to kick them is it? |
In the context of the original image being an inaccurate anti-Tory hit piece, sure, why not? We're strictly post-factual now.
Jewlio Rides Again wrote: | So, why should they get any money, when there's a number of houses in my town suffering subsidence and get fuck all? |
I agree, they (or did you mean They) shouldn't, just on the general principle that it's redistribution of stolen funds
To answer your question though:
'The government funding, which will be used to address subsidence caused by the coal mining, is expected to create jobs in the surrounding area, which includes the town of Rotherham. "The factor that really secured the funding was making a major investment in a very deprived community" '
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Lord Percy wrote: | Rogerborg wrote: |
Lord Percy wrote: | Tories want to cut for ideological reasons |
That taxation is theft by force, and the less we have to do, the better?
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So you'd rather your taxes were used to buy and maintain nuclear tipped intercontinental ballistic missiles, and the submarines that fire them, instead of funding services like education and health which have extreme long term importance to any nation? |
When the Islamists get their hands on nuclear arms, a new primary school around the corner from me, mainly full of trainee jihadists, or a new hospital to cope with the swarm of immigrants, will offer very little security to me. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Rogerborg wrote: | Jewlio Rides Again wrote: | Oh, so not the labour Party, they only allowed the mining there. I see. An excuse to kick them is it? |
In the context of the original image being an inaccurate anti-Tory hit piece, sure, why not? We're strictly post-factual now.
Jewlio Rides Again wrote: | So, why should they get any money, when there's a number of houses in my town suffering subsidence and get fuck all? |
I agree, they (or did you mean They) shouldn't, just on the general principle that it's redistribution of stolen funds
To answer your question though:
'The government funding, which will be used to address subsidence caused by the coal mining, is expected to create jobs in the surrounding area, which includes the town of Rotherham. "The factor that really secured the funding was making a major investment in a very deprived community" '
The monsters. |
Except I'm not in Rotherham. Didn't even realise they did mining there, I thought it was mills.
So, where's the money to stop people losing their homes where I live? ____________________ Mpd72: I can categorically say i’m Brighter than that, no matter how I come across on here.
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Anyone who avows that Conservative doctrine is correct is just as wrong as those supporting the Labour offer. When the offer is biased, or tilted, towards one sector of society, then there will be inequalities.
Labour had better start understanding that the great majority of 'workers' would rather not be painted with the 'great oppressed' brush, (even though they are, to a large extent, in a marketplace more unpredictable than ever before.)
The Conservatives had better start understanding that they are riding the dragon of nationalism. They are going before with the sword of St George to slay the Euro menace. That seems to be the only 'policy' they have, woe betide them if they don't come back with heads on spikes.
In the meantime, the deficit remains eye-watering.
As has been mentioned, the only way to ACTUALLY reduce this deficit is to make and sell more to other peoples. Unfortunately, what we need / want, is / can be made cheaper / better elsewhere.
Where is the vision for a future largely automated, most manufacturing is already there. This is the future that causes me great concern. We are already educating degree holders to serve in McDonalds, but even there, you can now order from a screen and it will soon be delivered down a chute from an automated kitchen, that's the level of automation I am talking about, not even that lowly soak industry to mop up the desperate.
It will take a far braver person than me to predict what the future holds for today's youth, but we had better start investing in those areas that hold some chance of success instead of floundering around fighting class battles that hark back to the fifties. ____________________ The CBR900RR has been sold. Aprilia Falco worms its way into my heart.
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There was an interesting 'speech' in the latest episode of Fargo, something about the amount of wealth controlled by a small amount of people, and how the 'peasants' will realise this and come after them
The way things are going it does feel like there will be two classes, the super rich and everybody else. As long as everyone keeps blaming the poor we'll continue heading that way. Still not gonna vote for Corbyn though |
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M.C wrote: | There was an interesting 'speech' in the latest episode of Fargo, something about the amount of wealth controlled by a small amount of people, and how the 'peasants' will realise this and come after them
The way things are going it does feel like there will be two classes, the super rich and everybody else. |
That's been the model in Brazil for a long time, and the people the poor mostly kill are each other. If you're expecting some mass consciousness awakening and subsequent peasant uprising then dream on.
The two classes of Elite and peasants is the goal, with a small number of technocrats and security personnel to keep the thing going and protect the owners from the serfs.
There is no real future for today's kids. The debt bubble will implode, as will the worthless education bubble, which has been long overdue. Young Jemima doesn't need to waste 3 years of her life on a degree in Advanced Word Salad and Mental Gymnastics, to learn that she is a horrible white person, with too much privilege and that she should hate herself, her culture, and is of less value that the multitudes of the Third World that she should celebrate and embrace the importation of, even if they prove hostile, when she should rationalise some reason for this being so.
There will be few jobs for them to do, and what jobs there are they will either be unsuitably skilled to do, or be fighting far too many applicants to get. We are seeing the beginnings of this at the moment, and it will only get worse as time goes on.
None of the parties will offer any solutions to the problem, since it's far easier to blame the other side, and the string pullers that back and control all of the major parties would not allow the discussion to go off the plantation lest it get out of hand.
We are due a massive re-adjustment to Western civilization and society that no simple X's in a ballot box can solve, the only question is how far and how fast do we fall? Will we fall off a cliff or will it be a slow drawn out degradation as at present, until the whole morass becomes unsustainable? ____________________ Prize cunt
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Trident is only a deterrent against nations not against pockets of individuals in wildly different locations, possibly your own back yard. |
You missed the bit about ISIS having a caliphate stretching across much or Iraq and Syria then?
ScaredyCat wrote: | Additionally, you're wrong, education is one area where ISIS can be fought. Keeping people uneducated makes them easily persuaded, compliant and reliant. |
Ah, so we should build schools in Muslim countries. Good luck with that one, I'm sure ISIS and all other Muslims will welcome our non Muslim interference. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 349 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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