|
Author |
Message |
Lord Percy |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Lord Percy World Chat Champion
Joined: 03 Aug 2012 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
M.C |
This post is not being displayed .
|
M.C Super Spammer
Joined: 29 Sep 2015 Karma :
|
Posted: 18:59 - 15 May 2017 Post subject: |
|
|
Thought I'd check who's actually standing in my constituency: Conservative, Labour, Lib Dem, Green and UKIP. No monster raving loony types to vote for |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Jewlio Rides Again LLB |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Jewlio Rides Again LLB World Chat Champion
Joined: 06 Oct 2015 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Hetzer |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Hetzer Super Spammer
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
- |
This post is not being displayed because the poster has bad karma. Unhide this post / all posts.
|
- Super Spammer
Joined: 22 Oct 2013 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Rogerborg |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Rogerborg nimbA
Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :
|
Posted: 21:17 - 15 May 2017 Post subject: |
|
|
Lord Percy wrote: | So you'd rather your taxes were used to buy and maintain nuclear tipped intercontinental ballistic missiles, and the submarines that fire them, instead of funding services like education and health which have extreme long term importance to any nation? |
How about diverting the money towards building an army of invincible strawmen?
1) I am against Trident. I've never said or even intimated that I'm in favour of it. It's not a deterrent since we'd never use it, even in retaliation.
2) No major party is promising to scrap Trident, so for whom do you imagine I'd vote? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Jewlio Rides Again LLB |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Jewlio Rides Again LLB World Chat Champion
Joined: 06 Oct 2015 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
- |
This post is not being displayed because the poster has bad karma. Unhide this post / all posts.
|
- Super Spammer
Joined: 22 Oct 2013 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Jewlio Rides Again LLB |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Jewlio Rides Again LLB World Chat Champion
Joined: 06 Oct 2015 Karma :
|
Posted: 21:38 - 15 May 2017 Post subject: |
|
|
mpd72 wrote: |
House insurance doesn't cover it then?
Care to show these houses which people have lost, with no compo, to subsidence for being over a mine? |
Not generally, they either specifically exclude it, or may make it exhorbitantly expensive. Not to mention they don't cover rectification of the problem; only repairing the damage already caused. Bit like replacing a paving stone that cracks because it's on an uneven base, rather than flattening it first. Not to mention holding to you ransom once you've had to claim, like so -> https://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/feb/20/homeowners-subsidence-claim-switch-insurer
If you want examples, there were a number of houses on Primrose Lane in Standish that were flattened due to subsidence. As well as the 'rods' that helped prevent it destroying the value of the homes. Just because a house is still standing, doesn't mean it's not basically worthless.
Quote: | You seem to be confusing a national treasure owned by a trust as the house of a Tory MP's wife.
I won't hold my breath, what with your sense of reality. |
My father in law holds his house in trust. Doesn't mean he doesn't get the benefit of it, does it? National treasure? Yeah, because someone wrote a story based on it? I can think of examples which are now long gone, no money to preserve or maintain.
It's not what you know, it's who you are. ____________________ Mpd72: I can categorically say i’m Brighter than that, no matter how I come across on here.
HAHAHA HAHAHA Blew Chilly MyCrowSystems |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
arry |
This post is not being displayed .
|
arry Super Spammer
Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Jewlio Rides Again LLB |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Jewlio Rides Again LLB World Chat Champion
Joined: 06 Oct 2015 Karma :
|
Posted: 22:17 - 15 May 2017 Post subject: |
|
|
arry wrote: | mpd72 wrote: |
House insurance doesn't cover it then?
Care to show these houses which people have lost, with no compo, to subsidence for being over a mine?
|
No, not when the insurer's peril data says it's a no-go area - and most of the old mining areas are well known / throw up the uninsurable flag. Exclude peril is likely outcome - accept with £5000+ excess and / or a 10% coinsurance clause at best; and that's assuming you're not in an area that's 'known' for subsidence issues as if it is to the best of your knowledge and you must declare it, then good luck.
There's been plenty in the past TBH. Some wordings used to carry an exclusion for starters - not so much any more.
Outside of the mining issue there's also the coastal erosion issue which affected the east coast a few years back (well, is ongoing, but it was dramatic a few years back). They're not insured either, and it's a direct result of governmental coastal management that their properties are affected.
Jewlio is correct, TBH. |
arry wrote: | Jewlio is correct, TBH. |
arry wrote: | Jewlio is correct, TBH. |
____________________ Mpd72: I can categorically say i’m Brighter than that, no matter how I come across on here.
HAHAHA HAHAHA Blew Chilly MyCrowSystems |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
- |
This post is not being displayed because the poster has bad karma. Unhide this post / all posts.
|
- Super Spammer
Joined: 22 Oct 2013 Karma :
|
Posted: 09:34 - 16 May 2017 Post subject: |
|
|
arry wrote: | mpd72 wrote: |
House insurance doesn't cover it then?
Care to show these houses which people have lost, with no compo, to subsidence for being over a mine?
|
No, not when the insurer's peril data says it's a no-go area - and most of the old mining areas are well known / throw up the uninsurable flag. Exclude peril is likely outcome - accept with £5000+ excess and / or a 10% coinsurance clause at best; and that's assuming you're not in an area that's 'known' for subsidence issues as if it is to the best of your knowledge and you must declare it, then good luck.
There's been plenty in the past TBH. Some wordings used to carry an exclusion for starters - not so much any more.
Outside of the mining issue there's also the coastal erosion issue which affected the east coast a few years back (well, is ongoing, but it was dramatic a few years back). They're not insured either, and it's a direct result of governmental coastal management that their properties are affected.
Jewlio is correct, TBH. |
All of which should have been included in the survey when they bought the house and reflected in the price surely?
A bit like buying a cheap house with great views about 20ft from a chalk cliff. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
Jaguar S Type 3.0 V6 Sport R, VW Transporter T5 GP LWB Shuttle 140ps DSG. |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Rogerborg |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Rogerborg nimbA
Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Lord Percy |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Lord Percy World Chat Champion
Joined: 03 Aug 2012 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
ScaredyCat |
This post is not being displayed .
|
ScaredyCat World Chat Champion
Joined: 19 May 2012 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Rogerborg |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Rogerborg nimbA
Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :
|
Posted: 11:06 - 16 May 2017 Post subject: |
|
|
Lord Percy wrote: | The main point was that those who dislike taxation should surely be just as annoyed that their money is still being thrown fully at things like nuclear armed subs, and almost the highest military expenditure in Europe, while useful things that are worth keeping in good order like healthcare, education etc are in varying forms of crisis. |
Yes, I am. Let's not forget the £12 billion a year in despot bribes either.
However, my primary interest is in being mugged for less, not in the notional benefits of where the State chooses to waste that stolen money.
So given the actual choices on offer rather than some imaginary party that doesn't exist, what are my options?
The Tories and UKIP don't seem to view taxation as a merit in and of itself, and my tax mugging has come down very slightly under the Tories.
Comrade Corbyn's Labour, the Limps, Ecomentals and Scotch Racialists are all threatening tax hikes to pay for their fantasy Utopias. Punitive hikes, one might call them. And no, I don't believe for a second that they'll stop with taxing anyone making ($MP_SALARY + £10).
Fortunately I don't need to agonise over it too much since my constituency is going to either Corbyn or Krankie, not Sharia / Nutter / Tiny Tim / Starshine Mooncup . I can throw my vote away on anyone that I like with a clear conscience. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
- |
This post is not being displayed because the poster has bad karma. Unhide this post / all posts.
|
- Super Spammer
Joined: 22 Oct 2013 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
arry |
This post is not being displayed .
|
arry Super Spammer
Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
M.C |
This post is not being displayed .
|
M.C Super Spammer
Joined: 29 Sep 2015 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Nexus Icon |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Nexus Icon World Chat Champion
Joined: 26 Aug 2010 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
- |
This post is not being displayed because the poster has bad karma. Unhide this post / all posts.
|
- Super Spammer
Joined: 22 Oct 2013 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Rogerborg |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Rogerborg nimbA
Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :
|
Posted: 13:33 - 16 May 2017 Post subject: |
|
|
M.C wrote: | Rogerborg wrote: | I am against Trident. I've never said or even intimated that I'm in favour of it. It's not a deterrent since we'd never use it, even in retaliation. |
AFAIK only Corbyn has stated he wouldn't push the button. |
We've been over this.
It's not a case of him "pushing the button" since we'd never use them a first strike weapon. It comes down to what he'd put into the letters of last resort, which could be "Sail into St. Petersburg and learn Russian.". Similarly, Sharia could (and knowing her, probably has) written "Do what Uncle Sam says".
So that leaves London getting glassed and the Vanguard / Dreadnought captains making the call based on their orders.
Even if we have any in service (we have a tendency to retire ships before replacements are in service) and even if they're at sea and even if they actually function, it comes down to whether they'd follow those orders.
Consider the situations under which this happens:
1) Global thermonuclear war, in which case our contribution is utterly irrelevant anyway.
or
2) A missile or two being lobbed from Iran or NorKor. Just at us, rather than the Great Satan, apparently. What do? Glass Tehran or Pyongyang in retaliation? To what end? They've probably shot their bolt, and we don't really do vengeance (sadly). Uncle Sam might enjoy doing the job for us as a casus belli anyway.
or
3) Some boat sailing up the Thames and going pop. In which case, who do you even retaliate against? Fake news! Would you kill millions just on an accusation?
They'll never be used, or at least not in a way that anyone will be around to analyse afterwards. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Jewlio Rides Again LLB |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Jewlio Rides Again LLB World Chat Champion
Joined: 06 Oct 2015 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
- |
This post is not being displayed because the poster has bad karma. Unhide this post / all posts.
|
- Super Spammer
Joined: 22 Oct 2013 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
arry |
This post is not being displayed .
|
arry Super Spammer
Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Karma :
|
Posted: 15:13 - 16 May 2017 Post subject: |
|
|
Oh sorry, didn't realise I was going to press with my 2 minute post and everything needed fact checking- has that upset your sandy vagina?
But in principle you haven't disagreed that governmental intervention can have disastrous impacts on people and their homes without them having prior knowledge of any particular issue or its implications? Good at least we're on the same page on something. |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 363 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
|
|
|