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PostPosted: 18:59 - 08 May 2017    Post subject: Royal Enfield to buy Ducati? Reply with quote

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/auto/bikes/royal-enfield-revving-up-to-buy-ducati/articleshow/58567363.cms

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According to reports, VW, reeling under a crippling diesel emissions scandal , has tasked investment banking boutique Evercore to evaluate possible options for a sale of Ducati. The Italian company could fetch a valuation of about $1.5 billion euros (approximately Rs 10,500 crore), according to estimates.

Royal Enfield, a part of Eicher Motors, has been witnessing healthy growth in India even as it expands aggressively in overseas markets across Europe, North America, and Asia. Sources said that Eicher Motors - which is looking to attain global leadership for Royal Enfield in the middle-engine category - is examining the terms related to the acquisition, possible asking price, and how Ducati could fit within its own fast-growing operations.

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PostPosted: 19:07 - 08 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ducati's made in India Thinking
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 08 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

What will be the correct riding gear for a Royal Enfield Ducati made in India? Full race tweeds and a turban? Confused
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 08 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a funny thought, but it appears to be an unsourced, unsubstantiated, almost completely denied rumour, padded out with some basic figures that are neither here nor there.

Italian electrics with Indian materials and quality control, that is a recipe for hilarity. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 08 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

Italian electrics with Indian materials and quality control, that is a recipe for hilarity. Very Happy


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PostPosted: 22:20 - 08 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they don't buy it, the Chinese will. Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 07:26 - 09 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
Ducati's made in India Thinking


Is it? Shocked
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PostPosted: 07:53 - 09 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

weasley wrote:
M.C wrote:
Ducati's made in India Thinking

Is it? Shocked

Ye's.
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PostPosted: 08:01 - 09 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, why not.

Crap Italian wiring with Indian build quality control. The whole package. Razz

EDIT: You know what's funny Roger? I knew exactly what your reaction will be as I did try this several times before and you always gave me the Redundant karma rating. Reading you like a book. Triggered on stereotypes. Wink Embarassed
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 09 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:


EDIT: You know what's funny Roger? I knew exactly what your reaction will be as I did try this several times before and you always gave me the Redundant karma rating. Reading you like a book. Triggered on stereotypes. Wink


I thought he gave you a "redundant" because you just pretty much repeated what he'd already said?

Sometimes, I'm just so Confused
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 09 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked trickery, photoshopped in, can not believe this.
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 09 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shhh! .srewoprepus nimdA
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 19 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:17 - 19 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

It could be the one main manufacturer that doesn't build bikes in India but oddly is owned by them... Confused
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 20 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

My question is how can Enfield afford to develop and run Ducati if VAG and it's billions (before diesel gate) couldn't manage it?

I reckon all the Italian firms should have joined up years ago and pooled resources. I mean some brands have already been swallowed up and killed off or not invested in under the Piaggio group.
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 20 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
I reckon all the Italian firms should have joined up years ago and pooled resources. I mean some brands have already been swallowed up and killed off or not invested in under the Piaggio group.


They do that sort of thing from time to time. My understanding is that Italy has some unusual practices for companies to avoid bankruptcy, which essentially makes it hard for a failing company to disappear. This means Italian manufacturers can keep being Italian about things. It means Guzzi can keep existing.

At some point in the past everyone has owned everyone else.
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 20 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
My question is how can Enfield afford to develop and run Ducati if VAG and it's billions (before diesel gate) couldn't manage it?


VAG won't have bought Ducati because they fancied making motorcycles, they'll have spotted that Ducati have some technology which VAG could benefit from, same as any takeover in any industry. Companies asset strip and sell what's left. If the asset stripping is simply acquiring an understanding of manufacturing technology (maybe fuel injection or traction control) it won't have harmed Ducati much.
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 21 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
My question is how can Enfield afford to develop and run Ducati if VAG and it's billions (before diesel gate) couldn't manage it?


In what way couldn't VAG manage Ducati?
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PostPosted: 00:24 - 21 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

So when's the new Ducati Panigale 125 due out then?.
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PostPosted: 00:30 - 21 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZX-7R wrote:
So when's the new Ducati Panigale 125 due out then?.

Probably the same time as the 125 Monster and 125 Hypermotard Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 21 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well assuming you read, the last I heard was that VAG were looking to slash costs, and sell off assets to recover the slump in shares caused partly and somewhat unfairly by the emissions scandal.

Ducati I would guess are not a vital core part of the business for VAG to operate and grow market share.

I thought they bought them as they wanted exposure, advertising and access to race team publicity etc. It would have looked good for them to sit Lorenzo etc in a few Audi's or show moto GP stars in the adverts etc.

I'd love to know exactly what bit of crucial technology Ducati had that VAG were so desperate to get hold of and use, then asset strip them for before selling Ducati to whoever waves the cash. I know this happens and has been done before, but it does in this case sound a bit bollocks to me.

Lastly asset stripping doesn't always work out perfectly in the long term. Look how dull and boring all the BMW X1-6 series of soft roaders are, and how they are far from top of the class in desirability and sales compared to JLR products which are arguably much more exciting, and have a stronger brand image in this market sector
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