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| Rogerborg wrote: |
Itchy can do it. We should outsource our communist propaganda to him. |
I believe Itchy is a chartered accountant, to be fair.
Pleb gets $10/hour, director gets $200/hour.
Director wants to increase to $220/hour, for whichever reason, then pleb should go up to $11.
This sounds farcical, but is a bit strawman.
The reality is pleb would be on $10/hour, middle-management micromanagers would be on $20/hour, and there would be tiers rising up to probably 10 times or 15 times.
Board members and CEO's would get capped to $200 / hour, or however that would work out annually.
The problem with this is, and as Borgy says, it is distorting the market. Supply and demand need to flow, and if not, there will be knock on effects.
When the New World Order comes, it could be possible. But I somehow doubt it would permeate up to the inner-party...
I still do find it pretty demoralising to be told entrepreneurs only do the work they do at the beginning, because in the end they will get rich.
Wanting financial security is one thing (and 20 times an average salary would definitely get you that), but most business I see start out trying to make an impact on the world.
Then the money comes in.
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I fixed yours for you.
De nada!
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Think you've got far more to sort out than my direct quotes of you. 
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| Rogerborg wrote: |
Itchy can do it. We should outsource our communist propaganda to him. |
| Sun Wukong wrote: |
Pleb gets $10/hour, director gets $200/hour.
Director wants to increase to $220/hour, for whichever reason, then pleb should go up to $11.
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Not a hard one to fathom Mr Borgy, if only you'd...
| Lord Percy wrote: | ...properly read all the other bumf I used to explain this, you would surely have figured it out |
| Sun Wukong wrote: |
Wanting financial security is one thing (and 20 times an average salary would definitely get you that), but most business I see start out trying to make an impact on the world.
Then the money comes in. |
If I ran a business I would honestly do it with the primary aim being to make money.
But I would hate the thought of any lower level employees feeling undervalued or dispensable. I'd be one of those goody-goody socialist bosses and would be more than happy to try a model like the one I described earlier.
Another thing I would try is having specialist jobs shared by two people who take half the pay but half the workload. e.g. turn that one SQL specialist on £40k a year into two people on £20k who only need to work 15 days in a month, or come to a 6 months on, 6 months off arrangement, or whatever else, which I'm sure some people would love. This to me is the whole "the modern world should bring more freedom" idea in action.
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And when the CEO decides instead to outsource all the drones in Sector 7G to a shell company who employs them as 0 hour contractors with no benefits?
Once you start down the path of regulation, forever will it dominate your density.
Anyway, back on the original topic of deliberate media divisiveness: more neutral fair and balanced reportage from Al Beeb.
"Critics have branded Mr Bannon - who once managed populist, right-wing Breitbart News - as a white nationalist."
Yes, many of his critics call him that. Their evidence appears to be that many of his critics call him that, and also white nationalists like him, plus, everyone just knows it.
I've yet to see anyone ever point at the actual, you know, evidence behind the slur. But who needs boring old evidence when you can use argumentum ad nauseam?
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Very grudgingly: "the Bannon that emerges in his documentaries is occasionally a contradiction from the Bannon we’ve come to know in recent months. For as much gnashing of teeth as there’s been about Bannon’s white nationalist ties, his documentaries largely steer clear of racial themes".
But, but, everybody says.
My point is that the BBC could have described him as a small government free market anti-regulation capitalist conservative Christian, which he certainly is. But they went with "white nationalist", because, you know. We're not saying he's a Nazi, but... you know.
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But, but, everybody said. Good on her, although I'm surprised that she settled for so little. Bit of a cheap prozzie model.
| Sload wrote: | The Bannon angle is an interesting one. A fairly larger portion of Trumps support is actually Bannons support. And recent events make them unhappy. |
The hard core Brietbarteers, yes. But by putting the boot into Syria and sabre rattling on North Korea's doorstep, Trump gained a lot more approval from the centre/lefties than he lost by hacking off some small-State libertarians.
In fact, the more they disavow him, the better it plays to the centre/left.
The key thing to understand about Trump is that he hires and fires people, and he does it ruthlessly and constantly. Bannon was useful to get him elected. Now that he's in the Big Chair, not so much. He's got no real role there now.
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| Suntan Sid wrote: | No it's not the mainstream media, they've been at it for centuries!
It's social media, in particular Facebook!
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however when opinions cannot be backed up with real facts they're just meaningless words on a screen!
There is no real debate taking place, people have merely formed themselves into groups of like minded people who agree with each other!
Dissent is not allowed on Facebook, there is no "Dislike" button only the "Like" button, consequently these groups of people feel that their views are validated, whether or not their views have any basis in reality, or not!
Over the last three decades there has been a nasty trend to belittle anyone who has views that don't conform to the mainstream!
The language used to describe people who hold opposite views or do not conform to mainstream views is quite despicable and is used, specifically, to demonise these people!
You can see this language used here, on BCF, it's particularly noticeable in any of the "Brexit" threads!
The problem is, there are now multiple outlets were any crackpot fruit loop can publish their views and find a ready made audience.
Remember if you tell a lie repeatedly, for long enough, eventually your audience will come to see it as the truth, that's how propaganda works! Think about that for a moment and reflect on how that has been used in the media, by politicians, by PR gurus and advertisers and you'll see how the social media shitstirrers have cottoned on to it!
To make matters worse, it's obvious, if you digest any mainstream media that they're trawling social media sites, on a daily basis, and reporting what they see as actual "news", FFS!
It's a self perpetuating, bullshit, headline generator! |
Anyone with half a brain knows this.
Anyone with half a brain ignores such things and finds news sources that they prefer, and participates in FB for what it should be*, not what it is prone to become.
The problematic thing, of course, is that the ones without half a brain are the ones who will vote us back into the Dark Ages.
*pics of dogs, dinner, pints with too much foam, people trying desperately not to look as old/young as they really are, and grandchildren.
Oh, and baby goats in onesies.
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