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jamess051 wrote: | Alpineandy wrote: | You can become an organ donor on any bike.
IMO you'd be wise to appreciate that no matter what bike you get, you'll look longingly at other bikes within a year.
So I'd go for whatever good used bike comes up cheaply in your area, and then spend a year deciding what qualities you really want from a bike.
You can only understand what qualities you really want after you've been riding for a while.
Are you just interested in riding like a maniac, or is the bike going to be a commuter tool, or are you hoping to go touring etc etc. |
Thanks for the advice, appreciated. The bike is mainly going to be a commuter tool but I'm keen on getting something that's relatively fast too that I can enjoy on evenings/weekends. I'm not planning on touring yet but would look to do that in a few years time. |
Most bikes are 'relatively' fast, it's just some are faster than others.
If someone offered you a 0-60mph in 3.2s car, you'd bite their hand off. That's SV650 figures. The CBRs and upwards can snip a second off that, easily, and do licence-losing, prison sentence speeds in first gear. ____________________ Greetings from Shitsville! |
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jamess051 wrote: | relatively fast |
Compared to what?
[DAMMIT, beaten to it]
Have you ridden any 600cc+ bike yet? If so, have you opened it up - I mean, properly bounced it off the rev limiter?
A workmate chopped his CBR600RR in for a CBR600F because the F is more usable. If you're going IL4 sportsbike, I'd suggest that as a default, then find reasons to get something different.
But I wouldn't use an IL4 sportsbike as a commuter. Others will (and shall) disagree, but the IL4s I've tried have only got fun when they're already going faster than I want.
That's where the danger lies (IMO), that an IL4 encourages you to chase higher speeds. Contrast with my 800 twin that delivers decent torque off the line and up to any speed that I want to reach, without begging to be ragged to licence losing speeds.
Then there's the riding position. The GSXR, RR and even the SV650S all have you crouched over the tank (see www.cycle-ergo.com). I can't be doing with that, even a 600F was too head-first for my tastes and back.
Anyway, you're putting the cart well before the horse. Tests first, then decide what you want based on your experience with your training bike, and some test rides.
And I'd double-down on the advice to assume that you'll guess wrong with your first bike. So don't fret it too much, just get something that'll be easy enough to sell on, and build up some experience and a list of likes and dislikes. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Rogerborg wrote: | jamess051 wrote: | relatively fast |
Compared to what?
[DAMMIT, beaten to it]
Have you ridden any 600cc+ bike yet? If so, have you opened it up - I mean, properly bounced it off the rev limiter?
A workmate chopped his CBR600RR in for a CBR600F because the F is more usable. If you're going IL4 sportsbike, I'd suggest that as a default, then find reasons to get something different.
But I wouldn't use an IL4 sportsbike as a commuter. Others will (and shall) disagree, but the IL4s I've tried have only got fun when they're already going faster than I want.
That's where the danger lies (IMO), that an IL4 encourages you to chase higher speeds. Contrast with my 800 twin that delivers decent torque off the line and up to any speed that I want to reach, without begging to be ragged to licence losing speeds.
Then there's the riding position. The GSXR, RR and even the SV650S all have you crouched over the tank (see www.cycle-ergo.com). I can't be doing with that, even a 600F was too head-first for my tastes and back.
Anyway, you're putting the cart well before the horse. Tests first, then decide what you want based on your experience with your training bike, and some test rides.
And I'd double-down on the advice to assume that you'll guess wrong with your first bike. So don't fret it too much, just get something that'll be easy enough to sell on, and build up some experience and a list of likes and dislikes. |
Thank you, I appreciate the advice, will keep it in mind. The only 600+ bike I've ridden was on my conversion course from 125 - 600 and was on a 650. Definitely didn't open it up though! |
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The GSX650F / FA has sports-bike looks with with a more upright, roomy riding position. Might be worth considering.
The other thing to ponder is (quite seriously) putting a pad on the seat to increase the seat-to-peg distance. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Can you behave?
'Overtake Everything' mentality is a big problem on these kinds of bikes.
With "bullet out a gun" kind of acceleration I find myself performing overtakes in gaps of only a few cars on NSL roads...
I'm an idiot for having one and it will get me killed. I need to sell this blasted R1 and leave the thrills for my track bike . |
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don't limit yourself to a 600 on the basis that 'anything bigger and you'll die' - you can die very quickly on a 600 too.
don't think you can only be fast and have fun on a sports bike either. supermotos are superb fun. ____________________ Current : '08 Yamaha FZ1s
Previous: '99 Honda CBR 600FX, 03 ZX636 B1H, 99 Fazer 600 (red), 02 GSX-R 600 K2, 00 SV650s (red), 2008 ZX10R, 97 Bandit 1200N, 04 ZX6RR K1H, 04 GSX-R 1000, 98 Fazer 600 (gold), 05 Madness 110 Pit bike, 04 CR125R, 00 SV650s (black), 06 KTM 625 SMC, 99 SRAD 600 track bike, 03 SV650, 98 Bandit 1200N, Bandit 600SY, 03 GSX-R 600 K3, 01 GSX-R 600, 01 Fazer 600 (black), VFR 400 NC30 x3, 78 Honda Dream, 00 Speedfight 50 |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 303 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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