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cdlxxvi Nearly there...
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Posted: 12:53 - 02 Jul 2017 Post subject: 'Twas but Project Fear, one year later |
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We can now say with 100% certainty[1] that absolutely no problem has befallen UK economy, when compared with a similarly sized Eurozone one (Germany).
Let's start with the GDP growth after Q1 2017.
Germany has scraped a meagre 2.8%, whereas the Great British GDP has skyrocketed up to 0.8%!!! In your face, remoaners!
Add to this the fact that GBP/EUR has soared from 1.30 to 1.15 and we can clearly see how Brexit resulted in not only strong, but also stable environment.
Wanna talk about inflation?
We also observe strong growth in prices, with the UK inflation successfully up to 2.89%, with German squeezed down to 1.49%.
[1] See YouTube video "UKIP activist DESTROYS!!!11111 so-called expert prof. R.E. Search" |
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I'm glad those numbers have helped you climb out from under your protection blanket
I seem to recall a promise of an immediate and deep recession if we voted leave and a certain chancellor claiming leaving "represent an immediate and profound shock to our economy" and that i and millions of my country men would definetly loose our jobs and end up eating our children.....honestly this was the main reason I voted to remain, but since then haven't we had growth in every quarter including some of the highest growth in Europe?
Growth is growth and we can all pick and choose statistics like the statistic that put Germanys population at 15million more and gdp 1billion more than the uk even before last year "similar size".
France for example... a country with almost identical population and gdp to the uk (but wasn't similar enough for you) had a good last quarter (still about half of the Germans) but has only averaged growth over the last year of 1.24% while the uk has had 1.6%
As I said I voted remain... but don't consider myself a "remoaner", why? because the sky didn't fall in and I've still got money in my bank, petrol in my cars and bread and beans in my cupboards.
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craig, that was a fucking fantastic post, . ____________________ '16 GSX-S1000F |
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Where it does have a noticeable effect is where companies are the UK market for European goods, such as the industry I'm involved in. Obviously reduced buying power and a need to keep the business means margins are tighter.
But we're still getting a fair bit of work, whether that's due to service contracts arising this year (they didn't last year) I don't know. But we're slightly ahead of target at the moment. Even though we provide a top class service and are sole UK market holders for some of our products, less certainty and keener buyers mean it isn't straightforward.
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Pounds weakened against the euro and the dollar. Rather than the disaster this was predicted to be, it's now cheaper for people from Europe and America to buy our shit and come here on holiday.
Was up in the highlands a couple of weeks ago, I don't think I've seen so many overseas registrations before. There's usually a lot of Dutch (I think they like the novelty of mountains) but there were plenty of Germans in big motorhomes and French too. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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The narrative has shifted to the economy would have grown even faster had we not vote to leave yadayada As mentioned above nothing has really changed, imports are more expensive, so all those hipster satchels from china are costing more
For people actually producing stuff, or providing a service it's better than before. Migrants are leaving because they can't work for 3 months and buy a house back home... so why bother. I'd say it's going rather well
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Reality is that many of the people who voted leave were already poor and living in what the Guardian calls "crappy Northern towns". Economic benefits of the EU go to the upper middle classes and the crap goes to the working classes. How much the economy does or doesn't grow means nothing if you aren't getting a slice of that bigger pie.
Lefties should be happy. Us right wingers delivered you the peasants revolt you always like to dream of, but are never able to deliver. Too bad for you that the peasants hate you. The trouble for many on the left is that they have become what they despised the most, a wealthy upper middle class educated patronising elite, talking about the cause but not living it, out of touch with the weed smoking dream, looking down on the binman as lesser, moving to get their kids in the right catchment area while talking about better schools for all |
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Posted: 18:57 - 02 Jul 2017 Post subject: Re: 'Twas but Project Fear, one year later |
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cdlxxvi wrote: | We can now say with 100% certainty[1] that absolutely no problem has befallen UK economy, when compared with a similarly sized Eurozone one (Germany).
Let's start with the GDP growth after Q1 2017.
Germany has scraped a meagre 2.8%, whereas the Great British GDP has skyrocketed up to 0.8%!!! In your face, remoaners!
Add to this the fact that GBP/EUR has soared from 1.30 to 1.15 and we can clearly see how Brexit resulted in not only strong, but also stable environment.
Wanna talk about inflation?
We also observe strong growth in prices, with the UK inflation successfully up to 2.89%, with German squeezed down to 1.49%.
[1] See YouTube video "UKIP activist DESTROYS!!!11111 so-called expert prof. R.E. Search" |
I wonder why you picked Germany?
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Im-a-Ridah wrote: | Rob Fzs wrote: |
Depends what you mean by really leave, we wont ever please the head bangers like Mdp, but we'll break away from the political log jam of the Eu institution, hopefully reform the singe market towards something more like the common market , less political integration and more global cooperation as towards regulatory convergence. |
The EU IS the Single Market. Absolutely no reform in the direction of less will be taking place. They are serious and genuinely firm in that the only Europe is more Europe.
The best option for all involved is fairly generic trade agreement covering goods and services, but no membership or association with any EU body. Britain needs a clean break and the government knows it. The EU can then say Britain has is not longer benefiting from the single market, British government will have delivered a clean Brexit, and both sides still get to trade. |
No, the Eu is the EU, the Single market is the system in place to trade across borders which includes Norway and the rest of the EEA which is not inside the eu.
The Eu can say what it likes, the world has changed since it was boss in 1992, regulation and standards are now created by bodies all over the world, the EU then writes this in to it's own directives, the trade we do with them is effected by this, not what the EU say's, our best chance at shaping these reg's in our image is having our own seat on these regulatory forums, rather than the eu doing it for us.
This clean break is bollocks, what does that even mean? the longer we talk about that sot of shite, the longer we will remain in the EU and our politicians will crumble and we will still be stuck under ECJ rulings to organise trade disputes, rather than having an independent body such as the EFTA court to fight back against the EU laden ECJ.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 64 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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