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PostPosted: 07:23 - 05 Jul 2017    Post subject: External Hard Drive for Video Editing Reply with quote

My laptop is a 2016 HP Spectre x360 - i5 6th Gen, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD. I use Adobe Premiere Pro but when I start adding multiple effects, transitions etc then it starts bogging down the laptop and it becomes slightly laggy. Also export times for a 7 minutes 1080p video can take up to 2 hours. I'd imagine editing 4k would not be possible - or extremely difficult/stressful with my set up.

What's the bottleneck here? the CPU or the RAM, or both?

Also, I'm planning on buying an external hard drive to store all my media from and edit straight from the external hard drive, keeping it separate from my main SSD in the laptop. Any recommendations? Will an SSD be worth the extra cost in terms of speed and reliability, or will a SSHD do?
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PostPosted: 07:35 - 05 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laptop is the bottleneck.

Change to PC with decent specs and you'll have less issues.
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PostPosted: 07:37 - 05 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
Laptop is the bottleneck.

Change to PC with decent specs and you'll have less issues.


Yeh thought as much. I am away from home 5 months of the year so a PC isn't really an option.

As for external hard drives, as my 256GB SSD is filling up, is an SSD worth the extra $$?
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PostPosted: 07:43 - 05 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

For my main drive, yes. For constant writing and access, so file storage, no. I use actual drives for that.
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PostPosted: 07:55 - 05 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you're rendering you could check task manager to see what's maxed out - CPU most likley.
Adding external drive won't help except it's a good place to keep your videos rather than fill up main drive.

Recent versions of Premiere have inbuilt ability to use smaller proxy files which helps a lot especially with 4K
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PostPosted: 09:22 - 05 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fifteen15 wrote:
Paddy. wrote:
Laptop is the bottleneck.

Change to PC with decent specs and you'll have less issues.


Yeh thought as much. I am away from home 5 months of the year so a PC isn't really an option.

As for external hard drives, as my 256GB SSD is filling up, is an SSD worth the extra $$?


Buy a micro PC perhaps? Nuc, Brix, ... some of those run a desktop CPU = so much woof, so much power. OR, something like Asrock DeskMini 110, which you may fit with any 65W TDP Skylake/Kabylake CPU. With a locked i7 you would get a rendering powerhouse in a very small package.

This thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQrSgX2ybTQ
Plug it in any Tv and you're good to go. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 05 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
Buy a micro PC perhaps? Nuc, Brix, ... some of those run a desktop CPU = so much woof, so much power. OR, something like Asrock DeskMini 110, which you may fit with any 65W TDP Skylake/Kabylake CPU. With a locked i7 you would get a rendering powerhouse in a very small package.

This thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQrSgX2ybTQ
Plug it in any Tv and you're good to go. Thumbs Up


Interesting set up. Didn't know these things existed. But for what I'm after, it needs to be an ultra portable set up i.e. no extra keyboard, monitor etc. Tbh I'm not that bothered about my laptop slowing down when using Adobe. It's only right at the end - the last 10 minutes of editing as I add all the effects. Other than that I can edit everything I need to without any real problems, I made the thread more to see if an external SSD would make any significant difference - which it won't Smile
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 05 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do a lot of video editing and work from a PC as anything going to an external drive will bottle up even with USB3 esp as Adobe creates very large files if you have multiple efx or layers involved

one option would be to increase you internal SSD's capacity with a 1tb USB drive to back up to once you finish the editing

I have 2 x 2Tb drives with a large cache and high data rates dedicated to video editing
and even these are filling up quickly
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PostPosted: 01:44 - 06 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fifteen15 wrote:
Paddy. wrote:
Laptop is the bottleneck.

Change to PC with decent specs and you'll have less issues.


Yeh thought as much. I am away from home 5 months of the year so a PC isn't really an option.

As for external hard drives, as my 256GB SSD is filling up, is an SSD worth the extra $$?


Laptops tend to be dual core, so pretty mediocre for video editing. You say you are away for 5 months a year so I'm guessing you are a student. If so, my advice would be to use a uni computer, they will have serious good computers for this kind of thing already. More RAM might help a bit, external hard drive not so much. What you really need though is more cores.

If you are in the army or navy or something then an external computer probably isn't an option as its likely to draw a lot of power. You don't need a screen or keyboard though, you can use remote desktop to run the encoding remotely on the PC. Remote desktop can be local in a physical sense, so just between two computers at each end of an ethernet cable, but it will take a bit of effort to set up.
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PostPosted: 08:19 - 06 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your video editing software allows you to use proxy media use that while editing. If rendering is an issue you could do export the video with some layers / effects and then build a 2nd project using that export and adding the layers / effects yo temporarily disabled to that.
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 06 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy a mac?

Just saying. Sounds like a job for a mac.
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 06 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there anything that actually makes Macs better at this sort of thing or is it just the marketing image?
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 06 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Is there anything that actually makes Macs better at this sort of thing or is it just the marketing image?


same reason why an iphone runs better with 2gb of ram than an android with 8gb Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 06 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

vice wrote:
chris-red wrote:
Is there anything that actually makes Macs better at this sort of thing or is it just the marketing image?


same reason why an iphone runs better with 2gb of ram than an android with 8gb Rolling Eyes



So it doesn't then Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 06 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Is there anything that actually makes Macs better at this sort of thing or is it just the marketing image?


They used to be, now, not so much
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 06 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Is there anything that actually makes Macs better at this sort of thing


FCPX costs ~£200 one off payment (Motion is ~£50) - I'd buy both.

Adobe Premiere costs £20 a month. I refuse to rent software.

The only thing I miss from Premiere is Mocha but you can buy add-ons from Coremelt for FCPX to give a cut down Mocha. Magnetic time line is nice in fcpx and it's really easy to use.
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 06 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fizzoid wrote:
chris-red wrote:
Is there anything that actually makes Macs better at this sort of thing or is it just the marketing image?


They used to be, now, not so much

Couple of bits of software if you're into video editing or music production (FCP and Logic), reasonably priced as well. I'm not an Apple fanboy at all but people do miss the point of them, they perform rather well considering their products are almost always lower spec'.

I wouldn't invest in a Mac but I do have OS X running on my (hackintosh) PC. That's a whole world of issues to get it it running, but personally preferable to buying expensive Apple hardware. Also I get a warm feeling knowing Steve Jobs' probably turning in his grave Smile

Some laptops are compatible with OS X/macOS.
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 06 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
Couple of bits of software if you're into video editing or music production (FCP and Logic), reasonably priced as well. I'm not an Apple fanboy at all but people do miss the point of them, they perform rather well considering their products are almost always lower spec'.

Actually I've found that since windows 10 has been released on similar spec laptops OSX no longer offers a performance advantage. Combine that with Dell 'premium business' laptops typically cheaper & have better thermal management (meaning for sustained high load work they're faster).
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 06 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Is there anything that actually makes Macs better at this sort of thing or is it just the marketing image?


It seems to be a historical thing, but today it doesn't really apply. Professionals in the field are more likely to use a Mac, so the support is probably better, but you pay a premium for that too. Arts universities are also filled with Macs and student with Macbooks.

ScaredyCat wrote:
chris-red wrote:
Is there anything that actually makes Macs better at this sort of thing


FCPX costs ~£200 one off payment (Motion is ~£50) - I'd buy both.

Adobe Premiere costs £20 a month. I refuse to rent software.

The only thing I miss from Premiere is Mocha but you can buy add-ons from Coremelt for FCPX to give a cut down Mocha. Magnetic time line is nice in fcpx and it's really easy to use.


Pirated software is free.
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