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Posted: 02:16 - 28 May 2017 Post subject: |
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Sorry guys, I've been away for a few days so I haven't been online to check this thread.
Ok, I'll be honest you have all made me feel a bit better about the whole thing. I kind of half expected everyone on here to say something along the lines of "Well if it just didn't feel right, it's not for you" or "You know if you're suited to it straight away when you sit on the bike" or something similar. It's just that everyone I know who has already done their CBT to seemed to really enjoy it, and even if they didn't pick it up straight away, it never seemed to feel so "awkward" like it did it with me. Its the fact that riding the bike felt so "unnatural" to me that threw me off, not just the fact I didn't sail through it. Meh, maybe I'm just overthinking it.
Guess I can only give it another go |
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Rogerborg nimbA
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Posted: 10:22 - 28 May 2017 Post subject: |
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Mozzy1113 wrote: | Its the fact that riding the bike felt so "unnatural" to me that threw me off |
Me too. I was frazzled by the time we'd finished the off-road parts, skipped the road ride and went back for a 2nd try at it.
Even with no riding in between, going back rested and with some time for my brain to assimilate it, it felt so much easier.
I'm so glad I stuck with it, riding is just ace. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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nachtjenevel L Plate Warrior
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Posted: 13:45 - 06 Jun 2017 Post subject: Re: Didn't pass CBT first time - Advice? |
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Mozzy1113 wrote: | Hello everyone,
I'm 27 years old and I've been driving a car for 8 years. ...
Is there any point in giving it another go? Or does the fact that I just didn't "feel" it a good sign that a bike isn't for me? I'm gutted, I thought I would just pick it up straight away. I passed my car test first time, no problems (although I know that obviously a riding bike is very different to driving a car).
Any advice or pointers would be helpful. |
I, too, didn't pass my CBT the first time. Like you, I couldn't believe that, as a car driver of 35 years, I just couldn't seem to get my hands and feet and head and body and bike to coordinate well enough to do what I wanted them to do. I kept taking the string of instructions I was being given and trying to carry them out while simultaneously trying to come to grips with how to handle the bike and .. I couldn't do it. Like you, I left feeling very inadequate and questioning whether I should even try again.
Every time I got into my car after that I pretended to double-tap the turn signal button to turn it off (on the steering wheel - LOL!). I made the same foot movements I would make to change gears on the bike after I made them in my car. I practiced making lifesaver looks over my shoulder(s) at every turn and roundabout, and when I was changing lanes in the car. I paid attention to how often I checked my car mirrors. I paid attention to bikes on the road to see how they rode, when they checked their mirrors, when they did lifesavers, where they positioned themselves on the road, how they handled traffic at roundabouts, etc. And I booked back in for my CBT.
This time, at the CBT, I had already had that previous day of riding in the yard on their bikes, and I had been practicing the moves and movements that I would be making on the bike in my car. I felt a lot more comfortable and relaxed about it, and I hopped on the bike and had fun! I passed without any problems at all.
This would be my advice for you. You want to ride, so go for it! Get back on that bike - book yourself back in, take the day of experience you got at your first CBT as a good training opportunity, and get back in there and do it! You'll likely be just fine the second time around.
Good luck!!
~ Sian
(Kawasaki Eliminator 125 and lovin' it!) |
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Posted: 14:00 - 06 Jun 2017 Post subject: Re: Didn't pass CBT first time - Advice? |
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nachtjenevel wrote: | Every time I got into my car after that I pretended to double-tap the turn signal button to turn it off (on the steering wheel - LOL!). I made the same foot movements I would make to change gears on the bike after I made them in my car. I practiced making lifesaver looks over my shoulder(s) at every turn and roundabout, and when I was changing lanes in the car. I paid attention to how often I checked my car mirrors. I paid attention to bikes on the road to see how they rode, when they checked their mirrors, when they did lifesavers, where they positioned themselves on the road, how they handled traffic at roundabouts, etc. And I booked back in for my CBT. |
Having completed my CBT earlier this year, i also did (and still do) as above, and like the above i too am a long term car driver
I thought it would be to my benefit being a car driver and having the road sense on the road section, but i think 20 years driving cars had ingrained the muscle memory to a point where i was really having the think hard about each and every movement when on a bike
I did complete my CBT first time (just), but had to be read the riot act on our final stint back the training centre that i needed to cancel at least 9 out 10 of my indicators after junctions or i would have been asked back for more training
I am only a fair weather rider, so don't get as much practice as i would like (bloody British weather), but that is where the above practice when driving comes into it's own, and i am now a much more confident rider because of it
Just trying to save up for my DAS now, and hope to get booked in mid/late Summer ____________________ Current Bike: Honda CG125 ES4 // Honda CB600FS Hornet // Triumph Street Triple R |
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Posted: 14:48 - 06 Jun 2017 Post subject: Re: Didn't pass CBT first time - Advice? |
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[quote="Alpineandy"] nachtjenevel wrote: |
Hopefully you still do that as it's undoubtedly improved your ability as a car driver. |
I do, actually. I've driven all over Turkey, Europe, the US, Canada, Ireland, and the UK, and while I've always looked out for bikes I had no real sense of what it was like, how much concentration, awareness, and double- and triple-checking were required of bikers. I considered myself an excellent driver before I took my CBT, but the CBT has definitely improved my awareness and car driving skills. Happy byproduct! |
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If it's any consolation, once you have got the hang of it, you won't forget. I taught myself back in the 80's the falling
off and getting back on hard way, there was no CBT then you see. Cue a 20+ year break from riding for various reasons
and then a return to bikes when I was 40 and it was as if I hadn't had the break. Once you've programmed yourself with
the necessary skills to ride motorcycles, they should stay with you. When my wife did her CBT as a bike virgin after completing
CBT she also says that her car driving and general observation on the road has improved. ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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Jeez the standard for 'passing' your CBT's low |
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Passed my CBT today... Got about 3/4 through the day and said to the instructor I just didnt feel ready or safe and he should go ahead on the road with the others. He persevered and I did the road practice... tbh it felt a lot better on the road but I am not sure I would have passed me. I suppose although I was making mistakes, I was quickly and safely rectifying them. I was far from perfect.
He said a second day was included in the price if needed which is good - but gives them an incentive to pass on the first day... At least by passing I can find a quiet space and just go round and round starting and stopping till it comes naturally which is what I think I need.
Just do a second day if needed. Great to know your limits - many a fool cut down from over confidence... V surprised if anyone with no road or bike experience is genuinely safe after only one day - it was hard work, but fun when it flowed |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 282 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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