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PostPosted: 17:08 - 21 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's a different OS. Android will truly multi-task. Having multiple applications running is what the memory is for, not speeding up basic operation or a single app.


Yeah I get that, but are you saying memory availability has no impact on foreground applications performance?
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 21 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How far did that lawsuit get? what was the result again


Regardless, People have the exact opposite experience to your findings though. Bad enough for a class action lawsuit to take place.

I've also pointed out the facts about Apple failures and returns vs Samsung, so your previous anecdote about all of your old android devices being dead was also taken with the same sceptical 'pinch of salt'.

Your personal experiences are really against the known and reported known, but I think you've probably never owned an android device in your life, and prefer to spread laughable bullshit thickly when needed.

I shant be bothering answering any more of your laughable retorts, as you've proven you are a special case.

/tips hat.
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 21 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Regardless, People have the exact opposite experience to your findings though. Bad enough for a class action lawsuit to take place.

They're American, it's what they do. Remember the my iPod goes too loud hearing damage lawsuit?

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I've also pointed out the facts about Apple failures and returns vs Samsung, so your previous anecdote about all of your old android devices being dead was also taken with the same sceptical 'pinch of salt'.

Not trying to take sides (honest) but I have had similar experiences. I think when you posted that it was a yeah Samsung are great topic, to which people shared differing experiences. I'm looking at a dead S6 right now.

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I love how a not interested in Apple topic turned into a fanboy slagging match Very Happy
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 21 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pjay wrote:

I've also pointed out the facts about Apple failures and returns vs Samsung, so your previous anecdote about all of your old android devices being dead was also taken with the same sceptical 'pinch of salt'.


Difference is the one time I've had an Apple product fail a year out of warranty they still replaced it FOC, both times I've had a Samsung products fail dealing with their support has been a nightmare.

I own both an iPhone 7 and a Google Pixel btw, they are both as equally as shit as each other in different areas, but Apple's support has always been far superior to anything else.

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I love how a not interested in Apple topic turned into a fanboy slagging match Very Happy


It always does, it's funny how upset people get about it. I'm quite happy using both devices, but obviously I have my preference, I guess that makes me a fanyboy.

To answer SacredyCat's original question, I don't think you'll get a less shit android device than the OnePlus 5 for that price
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 21 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I love how a not interested in Apple topic turned into a fanboy slagging match Very Happy


Yeah, I should not have mentioned the 'apple' word.

ON subject - if you want a straightforward phone that should just work for a number of years as it always has then my advice would genuinely be... buy an apple iPhone 6s or 7 as cheap as you can find one second hand because it will probably work for effing years

...buy a decent used or cheap new galaxy s7 because IP68 waterproof and genuinely good phone.
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 21 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah I get that, but are you saying memory availability has no impact on foreground applications performance?


IOS works differently to Android. IOS prioritises the foreground application at the expense of any background ones to give the feeling of a fast device. On IOS the UI has the priority. Android doesn't do quite the same, and because of the way it works never will. In an android app the UI is generally calling on services and background tasks to do things and then update the UI when ready, so those background tasks need to have priority too.

Android will sacrifice an app that isn't in the foreground if the foreground app needs more resource but the idea is to keep your apps running for quicker switching.
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 21 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScaredyCat wrote:
vice wrote:

Yeah I get that, but are you saying memory availability has no impact on foreground applications performance?


IOS works differently to Android. IOS prioritises the foreground application at the expense of any background ones to give the feeling of a fast device. On IOS the UI has the priority. Android doesn't do quite the same, and because of the way it works never will. In an android app the UI is generally calling on services and background tasks to do things and then update the UI when ready, so those background tasks need to have priority too.

Android will sacrifice an app that isn't in the foreground if the foreground app needs more resource but the idea is to keep your apps running for quicker switching.


Exactly it still "feels quicker" because it is. I have no desire or need to multitask windows on a mobile, mainly because watching porn whilst replying to an email on a 5in screen is fucking pants. Your priorities/requirements may differ..
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PostPosted: 09:59 - 22 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well if I was in an emergency situation and dialled 911, I would expect there to be a problem. Lucky for me I only need to dial 999 and if I need to dial quicker 112 Smile
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 24 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bought the OnePlus 3T a week or so ago for tree fiddy off the bay. Immaculate condition, 3 cases, 2 screen protectors, 128Gb.
Great phone, would highly recommend. Didn't feel the need to spend >40% more on the OnePlus 5.

I had the original OnePlus One, but smashed the digitizer and back case and became uneconomical to repair. Otherwise would still be using it. Still might try and use it with android TV/Kodi with USB OTG cable and wireless keyboard.

Used an iPhone 4S for the last 2-3 months which I quickly hated. Wasn't particularly useable. Battery would have to be charged several times a day. Spotify and Strava were extremely slow and a lot of apps would crash trying to open, guessing from the lack of RAM. Tried to resurrect my galaxy s2 which is still pretty snappy compared to the iphone 4s. The lack of updated android OS means that many apps simply aren't available.

Amazing how 'I want an android phone' has turned into an apple android war.
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 24 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a OnePlus 3 for about 12 months now, had a sight issue with my first one after about a month where the wifi would randomly turn off/on/off/on and no amount of button pressing would stop it short of a full reboot, contacted customer service, other than the massive time delay (guessing all the customer service is in China) it was handled very smoothly, i had to send my phone to a depot in Germany i think it was, and upon receiving and checking the fault was sent a replacement immediately, luckily i still had my old phone to use in the meantime, so no real hardship

After that, never had a single problem

My other half has had a Huawei phone (similar cheap Chinese built phone) for a similar length of time, and is now getting no end of syncing problems with her Fitbit, seems Huawei aren't on the list of approved devices (not sure if OnePlus are either) but i have not had any problems with either y old Fitbit or my current Pebble

Hope that helps a bit
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 25 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've still got the OnePlus 2. The Oxygen OS was unusably bad when I had it (several times); ashamedly bad battery life and exceptionally laggy. With custom firmware however (currently running Lineage OS) the phone is fantastic and still has a great amount of life left in it.

Would say with 1+ you need to be ready to flash, but the hardware is great.
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PostPosted: 00:23 - 25 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going wrote:
vice wrote:


Well if I was in an emergency situation and dialled 911, I would expect there to be a problem. Lucky for me I only need to dial 999 and if I need to dial quicker 112 Smile


If you read th article dipshit it says it's been replicated on 999, also 911 redirects to 999 in the uk, the problem is the way it connects to the emergency network, so it would be likely to happen on 112 as well.
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PostPosted: 06:51 - 25 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've still got the OnePlus 2. The Oxygen OS was unusably bad when I had it (several times); ashamedly bad battery life and exceptionally laggy. With custom firmware however (currently running Lineage OS) the phone is fantastic and still has a great amount of life left in it.

Would say with 1+ you need to be ready to flash, but the hardware is great.


I believe on the OnePlus3 they ironed out most (if not all) of the initial problems with the first 2 itterations

Battery life isn't class leading on the OnePlus3, but the super fast Dash Charge is great, something like 75% recharge in 30 mins (or something like that anyway), though the chargers aren't cheap
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PostPosted: 08:29 - 25 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dash Charge is great, something like 75% recharge in 30 mins (or something like that anyway), though the chargers aren't cheap


I timed mine, from 0-100 whilst off, 46 minutes.

The chargers aren't cheap, but you shouldn't ever need more than one.
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 25 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
rpsmith79 wrote:
Dash Charge is great, something like 75% recharge in 30 mins (or something like that anyway), though the chargers aren't cheap


I timed mine, from 0-100 whilst off, 46 minutes.

The chargers aren't cheap, but you shouldn't ever need more than one.


Yeah, i have one house charger (that came with the phone) and i bought a car charger as i use mine as my Satnav in the car, it wasn't cheap, but it is beautifully made
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PostPosted: 11:01 - 25 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

vice wrote:


Going wrote:
Well if I was in an emergency situation and dialled 911, I would expect there to be a problem. Lucky for me I only need to dial 999 and if I need to dial quicker 112 Smile


vice wrote:
If you read th article dipshit it says it's been replicated on 999, also 911 redirects to 999 in the uk, the problem is the way it connects to the emergency network, so it would be likely to happen on 112 as well.


Well if you wasn't so dense you may off understood my quote. One day maybe there will be some hope for you.
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PostPosted: 11:39 - 25 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going wrote:

Well if you wasn't so dense you may off understood my quote. One day maybe there will be some hope for you.


lul wut? Are you arcane again? It's ok reading is difficult for some people, you appear to be one one them. Better at maths probably, then again probably not.

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PostPosted: 13:58 - 25 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.M. wrote:
I've still got the OnePlus 2. The Oxygen OS was unusably bad when I had it (several times); ashamedly bad battery life and exceptionally laggy. With custom firmware however (currently running Lineage OS) the phone is fantastic and still has a great amount of life left in it.

Would say with 1+ you need to be ready to flash, but the hardware is great.

Interesting, can't say I've noticed the battery life being that bad, and it actually charges fairly quickly (compared to my iPhone/iPad which take literally all my life), but other people with the phone seem to disagree. The only real annoyance I have is the auto-rotate often stops working and I have to reset the phone.

I thought Oxygen OS was fairly close to stock android?
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 25 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks very similar to android found on the nexus 5 device that I had. Definitely moved away from cyanogen based OS of the first device. Not used oxygen OS before the OnePlus 3T but quite possibly my favourite OS yet.

Battery life also seems pretty good. Don't think I've dipped below 75% yet. That's with roughly an hour commute to work, using both spotify and GPS tracking app. Plugged in most of the day while at my desk, then another hour home with an hour of music at the gym then gets plugged in again when I go to sleep.
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 26 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went for the OnePlus 5 (8/128) in the end, arrived Last night.

911/999/112 issue was resolved before I even got it. (Qualcomm modem memory error) So not an issue.

"Jelly-Scrolling"? I can't see it and nor can any of my colleagues. It might exist, but if I can't see it, I don't care.


OS is close to stock android with some nice tweaks that don't get in the way.

Fingerprint scanner is instant, camera is good - particularly like the 20 shot burst mode. The screen has been on since 9am and I've been setting up apps, downloading music etc so in constant use and as of 13:34 at 64% battery.

Step up from my Nexus 4 is clear. If this lasts me as long I'll be happy.

Got the sandstone cover with it. Doesn't look like it'd offer much, if any, protection from a drop. Will need to hunt down a decent bumper case.

The only thing that concerns me is that it's thin. I'd rather it had more bulk to it.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 26 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice one, when my OnePlus 3 finally gives up i will certainly be getting whatever latest model is out

As for a decent bumper case, i can highly recommend Orzly products, i have one of their clear bumper cases on my 3 and it fits perfectly, without taking too much away from the aesthetics of the phone

I also use the Orzly Glass Screen Protectors too, very good quality and very easy to apply due to having micro dots on the inside, so it doesn't actually touch glass on glass, so no weird crazing or problems with dust creating bubbles

Some might say they are a bit fragile, but i have dropped my phone twice and broken 2 screen protectors, but never once damaged the screen, so i'm happy to stump up a tenner every year or so for a twin pack of screen protectors
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 26 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do they not still come with screen protectors from the factory?
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 26 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do they not still come with screen protectors from the factory?


Maybe a flimsy plastic film to stop the screen getting scratched (but doesn't stop the plastic protector getting scratched to fuck), but i'm talking about a glass screen protector
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 28 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Interesting, can't say I've noticed the battery life being that bad, and it actually charges fairly quickly (compared to my iPhone/iPad which take literally all my life), but other people with the phone seem to disagree. The only real annoyance I have is the auto-rotate often stops working and I have to reset the phone.

I thought Oxygen OS was fairly close to stock android?


Mine was fine for a while, then got really laggy and the battery life plummeted to lasting half a day with me barely touching the phone. I could be annoyed at the battery, but the lag was unbearable.

With Lineage for comparison, I'll easily last from when I unplug it at 7 and until I plug it in again around 1am for bed. Often after a night out I'll just not bother charging it, and I'll have a good 20-30% when I wake up. With no lag too. No idea what the cause was but the difference for me is night and day!

I even flash Oxygen OS again a few times just to see if it got resolved, but happened every time to my phone with Oxygen, and never on Lineage (well, back when this first started, Cyanogen).
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 28 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be in the market for a substantial upgrade from an aging xperia M2 in the near future and I've been looking at the one plus 5 and the S7.
Three blokes at work have had these Chinese phones fail, admittedly they were in the lower price bracket but it's just not very confidence inspiring when you're just about to shell out £400 - £450.
The one plus 5 might be able to do some things slightly better than the S7 but I'm gonna go for tried and tested build quality and reliability plus my daughter loves hers.
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