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Totall90
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 12 Aug 2017    Post subject: Security - Allocated parking space Reply with quote

Just looking for some advice really - especially from people who have had or have the same conundrum.

I am just in the process of buying my first flat. Its in a purpose build block and has allocated parking out the front. Not gated or anything, its essentially a number of parking spaces on a big driveway outside the front of the block of 6 flats on a quiet residential street.

My flat comes with one allocated space. Now. I haven't yet had any conversations with the property management company over this as I wanted to get some advice here first.

What are my rights over my allocated space? Can I just stick a ground anchor in there? Or do I need to ask permission - and what do I do for bike security if they say no to an anchor?

Hope I've described the situation well enough for advice to be offered...

Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 12 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check your deeds / get your solicitor to check them.
My sisters first house had a shared parking area that was actually set out in the deeds as her property. People just parked all over it so we got lining paint and marked it out, then put a retractable bollard in. One neighbour kicked off and was shown a copy of deeds. They then marked out their own space! Laughing Others then followed suit. Only neighbour who didn't like it was the one with three old vans.
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 12 Aug 2017    Post subject: Re: Security - Allocated parking space Reply with quote

Totall90 wrote:
What are my rights over my allocated space?

As enumerated in your contract, which we haven't read.

What a curious question.
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 12 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

jnw010 wrote:
Check your deeds / get your solicitor to check them.
My sisters first house had a shared parking area that was actually set out in the deeds as her property. People just parked all over it so we got lining paint and marked it out, then put a retractable bollard in. One neighbour kicked off and was shown a copy of deeds. They then marked out their own space! Laughing Others then followed suit. Only neighbour who didn't like it was the one with three old vans.


Good advice - and what about my position when it comes to installing a ground anchor? Otherwise the bike won't be there long!
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Totall90
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 12 Aug 2017    Post subject: Re: Security - Allocated parking space Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Totall90 wrote:
What are my rights over my allocated space?

As enumerated in your contract, which we haven't read.

What a curious question.


I don't think I've made myself clear here - I want to put in a ground anchor - how do I go about it? Do I just put one in and see what heppens?
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 12 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I own a new build house with a similar setup. You'll probably legally have to ask the management company. However I've NEVER seen anyone from my management company around, so I'd just do it and ask for forgiveness later if anything happens...
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 12 Aug 2017    Post subject: Re: Security - Allocated parking space Reply with quote

Totall90 wrote:
how do I go about it? Do I just put one in and see what heppens?

You could read your contract and deeds to the property to see what they says.

My money would be on you're not allowed to put a ground anchor in your allocated parking space.

If you're not up for having a look at your contract then asking the property management company is an easy way to confirm that you're not allowed to put one in.

If you just put one in and see what happens then when someone complains, I expect you'll be billed for removing it and repairing the tarmac.
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 12 Aug 2017    Post subject: Re: Security - Allocated parking space Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Totall90 wrote:
how do I go about it? Do I just put one in and see what heppens?

You could read your contract and deeds to the property to see what they says.

My money would be on you're not allowed to put a ground anchor in your allocated parking space.

If you're not up for having a look at your contract then asking the property management company is an easy way to confirm that you're not allowed to put one in.

If you just put one in and see what happens then when someone complains, I expect you'll be billed for removing it and repairing the tarmac.


My deeds say I'm only allowed to park a single motor car in my parking space/car port. It currently has 3 bicycles, 3 motorcycles (two of which are partially dismantled), 1 small plastic shed and two wheelie bins. Laughing

But I'm a bit of a chancer so do whatever you think is worth the risk.
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 12 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

The deeds for my house (freehold) and for every other property on this estate say that you're not allowed to park commercial vehicles here and you're not allowed to park on the roads. As you'd expect, those have been ignored by everyone since the place was built. Laughing

I still wouldn't be confident about getting away with putting a ground anchor into an allocated parking space for a leasehold flat. Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 12 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can't ground install; put a piece of scaffolding through a big pot/barrel full of concrete - better than nothing Razz.
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 12 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scout the location, look for spaces that have natural anchor points like pillars or lamposts or railings, then see if u can reach an informal arrangement with another resident to switch spaces.
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 12 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're not able to get one see if having a giant rock put in your space and sink an anchor in that. Or buy a shit heap car and stick a anchor point to it
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PostPosted: 07:35 - 13 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.tanks-direct.co.uk/materials-handling/mortar-tubs/200-litre-fork-lift-mortar-tub.html

Something like this, jab a scaffold pole through it so you can pass a chain through it and fill with concrete. It's not going anywhere.
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PostPosted: 08:10 - 13 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in a similar set up, though our carpark is humongous so we don't even have parking permits here, let alone assigned spaces. Miraculous given the proximity to a tube station!

As mentioned above our property management company are virtually never on site, we basically treat the place like it's freehold.

I chain my bikes to my neighbours chains, interlinking them, we have three between us, and a fourth has moved into our neighbour block so might get him to join our gaggle of bikes. I'm toying with making a big ground anchor as suggested above, but if I was intent on a proper ground anchor I'd be going for a Y-anchor, since they don't protrude above the ground. Less likely to be noticed, less likely to damage a car. Win all around!
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PostPosted: 08:21 - 13 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a Y-Anchor and who's going to care?
Remove a few bricks, dig small hole, fill with Y-Anchor and postcrete and it'll sit flush with the ground.
I've installed one in my front garden (albeit in mud) and it was really easy and took about 30 minutes total. Got a Shanghai Special version from eBay for about £15.
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 14 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

J4mes wrote:
https://www.tanks-direct.co.uk/materials-handling/mortar-tubs/200-litre-fork-lift-mortar-tub.html

Something like this, jab a scaffold pole through it so you can pass a chain through it and fill with concrete. It's not going anywhere.


What a fantastic idea! Thats exactly what i'll do. Problem solved. Thanks very much!
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 15 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand the need for a ground anchor, I understand that a water butt, old oil drum, pikey bath tub etc etc filled with concrete and rebar is a suitable weight and strength to anchor it to... But they look ghastly and will probably attract complaints.

Make a nice looking, large planter with the bottom half filled with concrete and rebar, clad it in wood (pallet wood if you are cheap) and sling a coat of stain/paint on it. Put some flowers, herbs, alpines or whatever in it. Nobody will complain if it doesn't look like a barrel of shit with chains hanging out.

i.e. make something like this with the bottom half being a large block of concrete:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e6/61/6c/e6616c341408366c64842c986a99a972--tall-outdoor-planters-large-wooden-planters.jpg
https://img1.etsystatic.com/115/0/10413726/il_fullxfull.862281069_ffhg.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/8d/55/d5/8d55d5f0a5bd79c22e53d8df33551668--planter-box-plans-building-planter-boxes.jpg
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