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holy crap, they're everywhere.
I'm finding it difficult not to speculate. The chap does sound like an arse. But that could quite well be fake news, media lies blah, TRUMP'S the greatest, to get a good story.
I do however have the opinion that the collision would have been unavoidable, so I don't think the chap is totally to blame. However like you said, when you panic grab a front brake on pedal bike you can come to a standstill almost instantly (or go over the bars)[/url] ____________________ Duke 390
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M.C wrote: | This behaviour is not limited to bicycles though. Had a few people appear to deliberately move into me when I'm using one of the two lanes predominantly for use by traffic going the opposite direction. They are usually the only car travelling that direction with multiple 'lanes' but feel the need to stop others making progress because I'm on 'their' side of the road.
They're normally just this:
https://www.camcycle.org.uk/newsletters/97/images/R033289L_opt.jpg
^I think that's Southampton BTW. I assume they think it's a one way street for all traffic, I've had vans drive at me shouting one way, really nice behaviour I've had the filtering thing (on the motorbike) as well BTW. I have very little sympathy for people who try to run down vulnerable road users.
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They shouldn't be just like that, that one has incorrect road markings.
The cycle side of the road should have a split white line demarcation with cycle signs on the road to indicate that there is a cycle lane contra to the direction of other traffic.
Copycat73 wrote: | oh the schadenfreude |
You really shouldn't use words you don't understand
Copycat73 wrote: | this I am curious about ...
pedestrian precinct ? |
Oh a polite question, I shall answer it politely.
Much of Central London excluding Red Routes now has a 20mph limit.
This was started by Islington Council in the name of road safety and persued by virtually every other borough. The idea was less pedestrians and cyclists would be killed but of course the world doesn't work like that. Now in places like Old Street where this happened the cyclists are often moving faster than the cars so pedestrians walk out into cyclists paths and cause incidents.
The irony is of course that due to so many people cycling there are quite a few who do more than 20mph making a nonsense of the speed limit.
I can't provide proof of this but if you were to stand on Old Street between lets say 17.00-19.00 you could see this for yourself.
Monkeypony wrote: | A naked drunk barrister with a heroine problem could could get a cyclist off a speeding charge. |
Well they should be able to what with speeding only applying to mechanically propelled vehicles. Riding furiously on the other hand is used in the place of speeding charges and they are hard to beat.
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It sads me that people don't know that speed limits don't apply to pedalists.
While we're clarifying, wanton or furious only applies once injury has actually been caused. It can also be used against vehicle riders/drivers who injure people off road, e.g. at race circuits, as it's one of the few offences that doesn't specify road / public place.
"Pedestrian precinct" is an interesting one. Cycles are prohibited on pavements (Highways Act 1835), but the actual term is "footpath or causeway by the side of any road made or set apart for the use or accommodation of foot passengers", which doesn't cover dedicated "pedestrian" areas that aren't roads. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Monkeypony wrote: | There is an attempt to include them with a by law |
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1987/363/schedule/appendix/1/made#text%3Dspeed
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1997/1639/schedule/2/part/II/made#text%3Dspeed
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2004/1308/regulation/2/made#text%3Dspeed
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2010/1194/regulation/2/made#text%3Dspeed
Seems fairly clear, although the underlying Act eludes me (as in, I don't care enough abut That London to keep looking).
Monkeypony wrote: | but as bicycles are not required to have any means of calibrated speedo |
Why is that an issue? Is an absolute offence, there's no defence of ignorance, although you could try it as mitigation in sentencing. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 252 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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