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Posted: 23:12 - 18 Aug 2017 Post subject: Re: When do manufacturers announce what bikes are discontinu |
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bigbadcredit wrote: | I'm aware that this is the last year in Europe that manufacturers are able to sell bikes that don't have ABS. |
ABS on 126cc+, ABS or linked brakes up to 125cc.
Last year was the last year.
Actually, 2015 was the last year for bikes designed after 2013.
Non-ABS/linked brake bikes are still being sold this year in limited[*] numbers under some grandfather rule that the DVLA has pulled out of their earhole.
If the Van-Van doesn't have linked brakes or ABS now, and it looks like it doesn't, then it's highly likely that it never will and that the current dealer stock is all there is.
You could ask a Suzuki dealer, but expect a blank stare followed by whatever lie comes easiest to hand.
[*] Ostensibly. But as I said, last year was the last year... ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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It's a capacity that's been made obsolete by the 2013 licencing changes. Sales of even the new "300"-"390" bikes are small compared to the new CB500 variants.
It's not surprising, since the CB is practically speaking the smallest capacity bike that anyone has to use to get an A2 license. Why would you get your license on a "500" (471cc) then take a step down in capacity? A Duke 390 (373cc) may have the same power-to-weight and more fun, but it has less absolute power and torque, and you're already used to the weight of the Honda (or higher).
So the market for 126-400s is mostly just geezers with a full license who are moving back down in capacity (hello) or penny pinchers looking for a bargain (ahoy) - but then why would you buy new?
I believe that manufacturers have hugely mis-judged the EU or at least the UK market for sub-500 bikes. Kawasaki have thrown in the towel on both their 250 single and 300 twin naked and sports offerings, although they're having a go with a 300 "adventure" version. BMW's much anticipated (by the biking press) G310R has been available since late 2016 but registered just 18 bikes in Q1 2017.
For reference, the Ninja 250 I bought last year was up on Gumtree for over a month before I took pity on the seller and had it from him.
All that said, the Van Van 200 is quirky enough that I believe it's a bit more likely than most to find a buyer, and especially more than a slow "sports" bike.
</Tef> ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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There's no reason that we couldn't allow soLo riding on any category of bike (appropriate to the rider's age). I mean, there's every reason, since we shouldn't be doing it at all, even for 125s.
It's simply not countenanced by the Eurodikats in any capacity, so we're already sticking a finger up at Jeanny-Fritz.
Why limit ourselves to the little finger? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 223 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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