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st3v3 wrote: | I get that many are at it, but what does locking them away actually achieve? |
It stops that thief from stealing bikes while they're inside.
st3v3 wrote: | but it doesn't stop the rate it happens |
Interesting fact. Can you share your source please.
st3v3 wrote: | so what does it achieve? |
It stops that thief from stealing bikes while they're inside.
st3v3 wrote: | I'm trying to understand the benefit of time in prison |
It stops that thief from stealing bikes while they're inside.
Hey, as it turns out, attempted robbery carries a 6 year tariff if you pick the wrong target.
But apparently the number of robberies in That London are limited by the Thieves' Guild rather than the number of available pikies, so another one will just fill his quota while he's inside. It's true, I read it on the internets. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Also consider the opportunity benefit of pausing their procreation while they're doing porridge. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Rogerborg wrote: | st3v3 wrote: | [locking them up] doesn't stop the rate it happens [...] Who was it who posted at the start of the thread the figures of increased theft over the last 12 months? The logical conclusion from those figures alone show the rate it happens at hasn't stopped. |
Because they're not being locked up. Not soon enough, and not for long enough.
You're doing a great job of arguing that soft sentences don't halt or deter crime. Please continue. |
I can't see it, if someone nicking a bike gets caught and serves 6 months and decides they've learned a lesson so will reform and stop then it would happen less, and the problem would decrease. It hasn't, it's increasing. How is prison helping?
Quote: | “This failure really matters. It matters to the public purse: this cycle of reoffending costs up to £13 billion a year.”
David Cameron, 8 February 2016 | If prison is a real solution then I would hate to see the system not working.
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Keyboard warrior antics aside, are you going to rush 2+ balaclava'd up cunts with a wielding a grinder, possibly machete's or acid, that clearly don't give a shit about anything other than taking that bike and not getting nicked in the process of doing it?
Thought not. | Keyboard warrior? For having an opinion? I don't recall threatening to go out and do it. But as it happens, yes, when my NS was nicked 10 years ago I jumped on my other and chased them down the cycle path, kicking the pillion off the back. Would I want to approach 2 thugs with a grinder? hell no, nobody sets out in a morning wanting that. ____________________ Roger wrote: Women don't get damp for clingy puppies. Get some better happy pills, hit the gym & buy a medallion the size of a dinner plate. Job done |
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st3v3 wrote: | Maybe people seeing this need to give said thugs a good kicking on the spot for having the audacity? 2 wrongs don't make a right but it might save everyone more hassle in the long run. |
Waste of time and you're more likely to end up inside yourself, the answer is if you cant beat them join them.
Get a few mates, buy some 125 scooters, taxed, insured and mot'd, take off the number plate and ride round looking for these scum, when you find them rob them, (if you're the sort of person who would give them a good kicking, this wont be a problem for you) take their expensive trainers and designer hoodys off them, ride a couple of 100yds away and burn their gear in the street and where they can see it being burnt.
Its a minor crime, it wont get reported and if it did there's not much chance of the police doing anything about it.
If you did happen to get stopped the worse you'll get is a fine for no number plate, unless you can convince them it fell off.
Meanwhile some chav scum is left staring at the burnt out mess that used to be his prized trainers and hoody (get someone to video the look on his face). |
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If they’re foreignese they should be shipped the fuck out and banned from coming back. If they’re locals the sentences for offenders and escpecially reoffenders should be tougher, most of them are out in a couple weeks or months, it’s a joke, the reason they do it is because the risk is worth it. If they got a hand lopped off like in sand land, you could bet your left nut there wouldn’t be a second time... who’d wipe their ass? Oh right the taxpayer again probably.
There’s a few things that stop people committing crime, morals/ethics of which they have none and fear, they are not afraid. If they started disappearing and bodies started turning up, their mates would probably think twice.
Not sure if London, but still funny, too bad his head didn’t end up under that wheel
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Posted: 17:42 - 06 Sep 2017 Post subject: |
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st3v3 wrote: | Rogerborg wrote: | Because they're not being locked up. Not soon enough, and not for long enough.
You're doing a great job of arguing that soft sentences don't halt or deter crime. Please continue. |
I can't see it, if someone nicking a bike gets caught and serves 6 months |
They don't though, do they? Until they make the mistake of targeting someone newsworthy, they go through the revolving door of justice, being handed out civil injunctions / criminal behaviour orders (badge of honour), fines (not paid), community service (not served), or suspended sentences (got off with it, innit).
Even if sent to gaol, they're never going to serve six months anyway, since it'll be disposed of summarily in the magistrates' court, they'll be given at the very most 6 months, of which they'll serve at most 3, and punted to an open prison as soon as possible.
st3v3 wrote: | How is prison helping? |
Let's help it to help us by actually using it. It's one of the very few things for which I don't begrudge being taxed.
We could start with a 3-strikes rule, and then move up to gassing. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 227 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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