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I rode my CB100 long enough to be ragging the nuts off it everywhere and constantly wanting more power. Had a couple of minor spills on it, so that was another fear largely out of the way. Probably a lot of people here will tell you that moving straight from that to a Kawasaki 750 turbo wasn't a great idea, but by then I felt ready. Gave myself a couple of scares on it, fortunately without crashing, and that was it...big bikes felt natural very quickly, and I never wanted to go back to the small stuff again.
I'm thankful that doing training and tests was all very much cheaper and easier back then though. But I guess those early miles on the L plates were an invaluable experience, especially riding in the traffic of that London. Having mates in a similar position to myself to ride with probably helped too. You felt like you had to measure up, although not in a 'too much pressure' way. Just fun. I just enjoyed the whole thing so much, I was never lacking in confidence; just wanted more, more, more! ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Rogerborg wrote: |
72 miles x 4 days x 48 weeks = 13824 miles a year. On a 125 that's a preventative oil change (say £5) a month, two or three sets of tyres @ £150 each,
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LOL WOT?
The Tyres on my RXS have done ~15k Miles, they came with the bike, they are still legal.
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a chain and sprockets at about £100
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LOL WOT 2?
Even DID/JT will be half that. I only Adjusted the chain on my RXS100 2/3 times since I had it. I would wager it could easily last 30k miles
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Throw in London insurance,
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West Malling isn't London, it was a small town in kent last time I was there, It's outside the M25. I live in the M25 and insurance for my Misses on the RXS was ~£150. ____________________ Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
Skudd:- Perhaps she just thinks you are a window licker and is being nice just in case she becomes another Jill Dando.
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lingeringstink wrote: | I used to be a London based courier. Things to remember are that "rush hour" is about three hours long, twice a day, in total street gridlock meltdown. Also you'd better have a private place to park because there's just too many people on bikes looking for too few bike parking spaces, and then there's the frustrated car drivers who park in motorcycle bays seemingly oblivious to getting ticketed for it.
Rush hour is impossible in a car and filtering in central London during rush hour is a SLOW process on a bike. You simply can not get ANYWHERE in any kind of hurry at those times and you're stuck in whatever weather. Your health and sanity will be permanently ruined in no time.
If parked in a public parking bay (if you can even find one) you bike WILL be stolen or vandalized regularly, especially if it's a 125.
However, if I still lived in London and had to be places at certain times then that's the only way I'd do it because I can't tolerate the hellish commuter slog on the tubes and busses.
Basically what I'm saying is it's a terrible thing to do even on a bike but it might be marginally better (less depressingly soul destroying) than the expensive, unsanitary and torturous commute by public cattle transport. |
I can get from Hornchurch to Shoreditch (16 miles) in Rush hour in less than 30 minutes (usually). Granted I've been doing it 10+ years.
Rush hour is rarely gridlocked in my Experience. This is a different route to the OP, I reckon I hit gridlock on the way in maybe twice a year, Gridlock on the way out is more like once a month. Even on those days it's more like 40-45 minutes a journey for me. To my Knowledge only once has it taken me longer than an hour (not counting snow) to get home. It has never taken me an hour to get in.
Traffic on my commute has definitely gotten better in the last few years. It used to take me 30 in 35 out not it's more like 25 in ~28 out, I do not think I am any faster. ____________________ Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
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I did very similar to you tbh - booked DAS too early (came free with bike). You'll get there no worries (Y) ____________________ Honda cg125 J reg peice of shit ---> CB650F ---> 2016 CBR600RR
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Here is my 2 penneth after recently completing my DAS course
I would highly recommend taking it slowly, the longest session i ever did was 2 hours, and that was long enough for be to be able to concentrate on what i was doing while out riding, then having a 5-10 min debrief, then allowing it all to sink in for a few days, then having another lesson
It took me 6 weeks in total from start to finish, with a total of 10 lessons (varying from 1-2 hours) so a lesson every 4-5 days, gradually ramping up when getting closer to my tests
I know everyone is different, but i certainly felt the time between lesson was well spent allowing all the advice to sink in, however, i felt that when i jumped back onto my little CG125 after the first couple of lessons, it was actually doing me no favours at all, as i was forgetting how the big bike felt, and getting used to the small bike again, then the first half of the next lesson was spent getting used to the big bike again
So after the 1st couple of lessons, i left my 125 alone until i had completed the course, and then promptly sold it ____________________ Current Bike: Honda CG125 ES4 // Honda CB600FS Hornet // Triumph Street Triple R |
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The school I used weren't even going to let me attempt Mod 1 I was that bad at the slow speed stuff, but even then they tried to come up with an arrangement (they'd waive the test fees if I booked more training).
In the end I did Mod 1 as a 'practice', and passed , same with Mod 2 straight after (I was fine on the road after a year on a 125). Dunno what the OP's problem was, was it general road riding? I wouldn't expect a noob to have the clutch control for a big bike. |
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So response via centre was they couldn't offer me additional training or time. as it was already booked in with the instructor etc. there seemed a fair amount of apathy towards what happened.
I would lose the test fees obviously anyway, and would need to come back in year and pay again
regarding my riding issues, it was clutch control. 100%. as you can imagine an element of careening around! even basic hill start became an issue.
Probably didn't help that the guy i trained alongside was redoing his MOD1/2 after losing licence i think so was cruising. think they wanted to get through it quick.
You guys are probably right, perhaps going back again and seeing what they say now a bit of water is under the bridge, is worth another try.
Im frustrated i got myself in this situ but also at the way it panned out with them. |
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If it makes you feel any better I don't think I really developed proper clutch control until after my test, around town at least. I definitely lost it again after having an 8 month break from riding (we'll gloss over why) only a few months after getting my license.
A 3-day DAS does seem kinda short for a greenhorn, I did one with a much more experienced friend, similar situation he basically breezed it (he had years on a big bike riding illegally) although he was worse than me at hill starts and struggled a bit with u-turns.
I think see if the school are willing to do anything, if not go elsewhere. Only school I routinely hear good things about are Camrider, but they're based in North London now. They're expensive but have had winter 2 for 1 training (Nov' - March iirc) offers on in the past if you can find a second person, and I dunno if it's a plus or negative for you but the training's spread out into 'sessions'. We sent them a bunch of complete autists from work and have had no fatalities or major accidents (yet) |
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I just wanted to say, Stewdog, you will find your DAS much much easier now that you have been playing around on the 125 for a few months. I was on my 125 for 4 months before moving up. I can't even begin to imagine what I would have been like doing DAS straight after CBT, probably on my arse looking at the front wheel in the air. 125 to 600 is a massive difference.
Clutch control is everything! I passed my Mod 2 7 weeks ago, and it took me another 4 or 5 weeks to learn to stop stalling the engine on my FZ600 when setting off from lights.
It's well worth doing it though. On the 125, you want to overtake the wagon in front doing 55 in a 70 zone, and it takes forever. All that time, you are in his blind spot, and he could swerve out and bowling-pin you. On the 600, it takes 2 seconds to be in front of him and safe again
Good luck, and keep up the updates ____________________ CBT passed 02/02/17, Theory passed 21/02/17, Mod 1 passed 10/07/17, Mod 2 passed 14/07/17
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