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M.C
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PostPosted: 01:11 - 13 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bets please on whether his sentence will be suspended.

Made example of etc etc.
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PostPosted: 06:07 - 13 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sentencing on 18th September apparently.
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 13 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
Ste wrote:
Bets please on whether his sentence will be suspended.

Made example of etc etc.


Good.

Perhaps it will remind other cyclists that it's a roadway shared with everything from pedestrians to articulated lorries and not a velodrome.
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 13 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Perhaps it will remind other cyclists that it's a roadway shared with everything from pedestrians to articulated lorries and not a velodrome.

And that you're better off leaving the scene of the accident and disposing of your bicycle.
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 13 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

He didn't do himself any favours by posting comments on whatever news website it was and twitter.

And from what's been in the news, it doesn't seem that he tried to offer a defence or question the claims about braking distances.

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PostPosted: 15:01 - 13 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what the news reports say he did seem to show the slightest bit of remorse either.

Courts don't like that, i think he'll end up getting a sentence at higher end of what is available
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 13 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From what the news reports say he did seem to show the slightest bit of remorse either.

Courts don't like that, i think he'll end up getting a sentence at higher end of what is available


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PostPosted: 16:43 - 13 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He didn't do himself any favours by posting comments on whatever news website it was and twitter.

And from what's been in the news, it doesn't seem that he tried to offer a defence or question the claims about braking distances.

Confused

That's lesson #2 (get a good legal team), although like with KTM guy, you hope common sense would be present in court.
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 13 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cycling Proficiency Test retake?


don't be silly - he's white and relatively affluent by the sounds of things; those from Middle England are the ones that get stoned to death in court.
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 13 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
mpd72 wrote:

Cycling Proficiency Test retake?

don't be silly - he's white and relatively affluent by the sounds of things; those from Middle England are the ones that get stoned to death in court.

So... Test Without Stabilisers?
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 13 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tut Tut Tut Tut against human rights.
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PostPosted: 08:06 - 14 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-41263926 details are sparse but another fatal pedestrian/cyclists accident in london.


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PostPosted: 10:14 - 14 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-41263926 details are sparse but another fatal pedestrian/cyclists accident in london.


The Standard mention a little snippet not published at Al Beeb and the other left leaning MSM.

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The cyclist stopped at the scene and was arrested after police checks showed he was wanted in connection with an unrelated alleged offence involving criminal damage, Scotland Yard said.


Let's wait for a few more details yet.
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 14 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

In what way is the fact that he was wanted for something else relevant to him hitting the pedestrian.

According to the beeb he wasn't charge with anything related to the accident.
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 14 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In what way is the fact that he was wanted for something else relevant to him hitting the pedestrian.

According to the beeb he wasn't charge with anything related to the accident.


It's almost definitely not relevant, just thought it odd the others ignored it in their coverage, which lets face it, is pretty thin on information surrounding the accident.

Like I said, let's wait until more info is available. No other report mentioned he was arrested and the Standard say not related. He's still in custody, even if not related and witnesses are being requested to come forward.
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 14 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyclist/pedestrian collisions are flavour of the month then. Meanwhile...

Around 98% of serious or fatal pedestrian injuries in urban areas (i.e. where pedestrians are most likely to be) are due to collisions with motor vehicles.
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 14 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cyclist/pedestrian collisions are flavour of the month then. Meanwhile...

Around 98% of serious or fatal pedestrian injuries in urban areas (i.e. where pedestrians are most likely to be) are due to collisions with motor vehicles.


According to an agenda driven organisation who promotes cycling maybe?

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Cycling UK has championed the cause of cycling for well over a century. We promote all forms of cycling, protect the interests of existing and would-be cyclists, and inspire people of all ages, backgrounds and abilities to discover the joys of cycling.

As an independent, democratic and expert organisation, our activities reflect the commitment of our members, volunteers and partners to make cycling mainstream, making a lasting difference to the lives of individuals and communities.


Where did they get their agenda filling made up figures from?

"2 deaths due to cycles from 2011 to 2015..." Yeah right. We must have a fecking epidemic at the moment then! Wink
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 14 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Want some government stats then?

https://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/15/13/82/47/death10.png
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 14 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:


mpd72 wrote:

Yeah but... no but...
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 14 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So cycles pose as much risk to pedestrians for serious injury as HGV's, who need third party insurance.

Gotcha. Thumbs Up

As for there being as many buses and motorcycles as cycles. Piss off, how did they reach that guesswork, counting registered cycles?

And if you factor in distance travellled? Oh yeah, cycists pose as much risk as cars.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/uk-news/57065/cyclists-almost-likely-injure-pedestrians-cars
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 14 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
So cycles pose as much risk to pedestrians for serious injury as HGV's, who need third party insurance.

Gotcha. Thumbs Up

Who's massaging the figures now?

mpd72 wrote:
And if you factor in distance travellled? Oh yeah, cycists pose as much risk as cars.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/uk-news/57065/cyclists-almost-likely-injure-pedestrians-cars

I saw that link and knew you would post it. Many pedestrians on the motorway? Many people going on 100 mile bicycle rides?
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PostPosted: 00:57 - 15 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

The figures are for miles travelled, not numbers of vehicles.

Motorcycles seem to be disproportionately high don't they. About as bad as last time I looked at this.

The way the data are gathered probably significantly underestimates cycling mileage.
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PostPosted: 08:56 - 15 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:

So cycles pose as much risk to pedestrians for serious injury as HGV's, who need third party insurance.

Gotcha. Thumbs Up


I'm sure its already been mentioned in this thread that many cyclist already have liability cover either through home insurance policies or through other means.

You get free insurance if you join british cycling, strava might even offer it as a bonus for being a premium member, but i'll have to check.
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 15 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

duhawkz wrote:
mpd72 wrote:

So cycles pose as much risk to pedestrians for serious injury as HGV's, who need third party insurance.

Gotcha. Thumbs Up


I'm sure its already been mentioned in this thread that many cyclist already have liability cover either through home insurance policies or through other means.

You get free insurance if you join british cycling, strava might even offer it as a bonus for being a premium member, but i'll have to check.


It's voluntary though, not compulsory. With the latest wave of Kamikaze cyclists killing pedestrians, maybe now is the time to introduce a bit more legislation and control, to instill a sense of responsibility for their actions?
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PostPosted: 11:04 - 15 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
It's voluntary though, not compulsory. With the latest wave of Kamikaze cyclists killing pedestrians, maybe now is the time to introduce a bit more legislation and control, to instill a sense of responsibility for their actions?

Laughing Hilarious - he's off again! There already is legislation.

The responsibility for their actions? What about the actions of the pedestrians, stepping into the path of the cyclists? Surely that's what you're really itching for?

Interesting thought - in many places in the US, it's illegal to walk across a road outside of marked areas. You can be arrested for it. Why not that?
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