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kawashima
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 06 Oct 2017    Post subject: Soft boots Reply with quote

I use this type of boots (Soft textile ones).
I like it's long(not cold), soft(can walk easily).

I see many of BCFers use hard types(plastic shell).
Are these soft type not so safe compared to hard ones?
https://www.elf-footwear.jp/img/product/terre01/terre01_blue.png
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 06 Oct 2017    Post subject: Re: Soft boots Reply with quote

kawashima wrote:
I use this type of boots (Soft textile ones).
I like it's long(not cold), soft(can walk easily).

I see many of BCFers use hard types(plastic shell).
Are these soft type not so safe compared to hard ones?
https://www.elf-footwear.jp/img/product/terre01/terre01_blue.png


Looks like zero ankle protection, obviously no shin protection, no toe sliders.

Clearly not as much protection offered as a proper boot, whether it's any less "safe" depends on whether or not you fall off! Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 06 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

as ^^ don't fall off.

Wearing out the ankle bone in an off is the main worry. 0 - amputation in a matter of seconds should your leg get trapped under a sliding bike.
Hard plastic boots might save a break in one place but would probably (no statistics to prove it) move the break somewhere else.

Don't fall off.


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PostPosted: 15:27 - 06 Oct 2017    Post subject: Re: Soft boots Reply with quote

Monkeypony wrote:
Looks like zero ankle protection, obviously no shin protection, no toe sliders.

Clearly not as much protection offered as a proper boot, whether it's any less "safe" depends on whether or not you fall off! Laughing

Thanks for your comments. I don't want to break my ankle badly in an accident cause it looks to take long to heal. Maybe I need more safer boots.

pompousporcupine wrote:
as ^^ don't fall off.

Wearing out the ankle bone in an off is the main worry. 0 - amputation in a matter of seconds should your let get trapped under a sliding bike.
Hard plastic boots might save a break in one place but would probably (no statistics to prove it) move the break somewhere else.

Don't fall off

Reading your comments, I think I want more safer boots now.
I don't want to regret after an accident.
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 06 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the full weight of the VFR land on my ankle and pin me down when I had an off the other year and got away with a limp. Hospital staff said it was lucky I was wearing proper boots otherwise it would have smashed multiple bones.

Short soft boots can also allow your foot to 'fold' in a high speed off, it ain't purdy.
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 06 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

pompousporcupine wrote:
Hard plastic boots might save a break in one place but would probably (no statistics to prove it) move the break somewhere else.

Agreed - but ankles (and joints in general) are complete buggers to heal properly, and personally I'd much rather have a busted shin bone than an ankle...
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 07 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to bike wear shops and bought RS Taichi 006 Drymaster BOA riding shoes. Smile
I tested various types (Racing(SMX-6), Offroad(Gaerne) and others) too, and this one seemed to be best for my usage (touring boots with enough protection+easy on/off(boa system)).
https://i.imgur.com/QMYN4Br.jpg
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 07 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freddyfruitbat wrote:
pompousporcupine wrote:
Hard plastic boots might save a break in one place but would probably (no statistics to prove it) move the break somewhere else.

Agreed - but ankles (and joints in general) are complete buggers to heal properly, and personally I'd much rather have a busted shin bone than an ankle...


Totally agree.
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 07 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

To counter this, some boots I were wearing back in 2008 actually needed to be cut off as they had a solid strap round the back to protect the ankle in an accident, the pressure of the impact actually bent that strap when I eventually hit the floor and destroyed my ankle Laughing

Better than no foot though.

Everyone seems to worry about falling off though, just don't fall off. I wear trainers every single time I ride... I just don't intend to fall off. Karma
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 07 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

kawashima wrote:
I went to bike wear shops and bought RS Taichi 006 Drymaster BOA riding shoes. Smile
I tested various types (Racing(SMX-6), Offroad(Gaerne) and others) too, and this one seemed to be best for my usage (touring boots with enough protection+easy on/off(boa system)).
https://i.imgur.com/QMYN4Br.jpg


They look quite nice!
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 07 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hrm... are they any different to the ones on the top?

I would imagine in an off that easy on/off system would be a) a pressure point and b) end up mangled thus negating the easy bit
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 07 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
They look quite nice!

Thank you!
Sapolsky wrote:
Hrm... are they any different to the ones on the top?

I would imagine in an off that easy on/off system would be a) a pressure point and b) end up mangled thus negating the easy bit

I didn't know about this easy on/off system by now, and to be honest, I was worrying about it too. How durable this system is in an accident. Cable used for the system was very thin(fine?) Shocked .
But some of other 3 or 4 boots I tried didn't fit me well, so I chose this one hoping this system has enough durability.
I'm riding slow 125 so I won't fall off due to high speed or lowside so much. I'm more afraid of being hit by SMIDSY drivers on the road.
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 07 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like standard issue UK Army Goretex boots.

They're tough enough to handle basic sliding along the road; they are stiff for normal boots, but you get used to them - of course they're made to be walked in for 10 of miles at a time.

Saying that; I've got used to walking in SMX-10 motocross boots while touring (motocross boots are very stiff - to start with it almost feels like you're in a leg cast for a broken leg!)
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 07 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knox Handroids have the same system, wouldn't worry about fast on/off bit Smile
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 07 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
I like standard issue UK Army Goretex boots.

They're tough enough to handle basic sliding along the road; they are stiff for normal boots, but you get used to them - of course they're made to be walked in for 10 of miles at a time.

Saying that; I've got used to walking in SMX-10 motocross boots while touring (motocross boots are very stiff - to start with it almost feels like you're in a leg cast for a broken leg!)

I tested offroad boots and racing boots for the first time today. They weren't easy to walk (especially offroad boots). But I felt them very secure.

Paddy. wrote:
Knox Handroids have the same system, wouldn't worry about fast on/off bit Smile

This is really helpful. Thank you Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 07 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

kawashima wrote:
They weren't easy to walk (especially offroad boots).

With off road boots, typically you won't break your leg like I did wearing race boots racing (my leg did break 'inside' the boot).
However, the force has to go somewhere - so instead you'll break your leg just above the top of the boot.

Of course, in cases of say a leg being trapped, bike running over a leg or similar - the stiffness may well be the difference needed to save it!
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 09 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've also pretty much solely worn race style boots, I had a pair of touring boots for a while, but I prefer the lightness and small profile of race style.

The pay off is cold feet in the winter and limited room for thermal socks, though goretex at least keeps me dry!
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 09 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

My prioritised selection list for boots:
Waterproofness
How secure they are/ fit
Armour.

I have a pair of full length boots that I do wear most of the time, however, when I was knocked off by a taxi a few weeks back I was wearing My TCX X-raps, which are only slightly more armoured than trainers:
https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/product_images/tcx_x-rap_gore-tex_boots_anthracite-grey.jpg
Bit of internal ankle protection, but that's about it. No broken bones thankfully, but I did receive a bit of a bump on my inner shin, that i guess a longer boot would have protected against...
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 09 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

bit late now if OP has made his purchase but i have had my leg under a sliding bike and was wearing these RST leather boots.

https://www.thevisorshop.com/Images/Models/Full/18751.jpg

They have an ankle protector in which genuinely worked and the leather held up well too. A few minutes with Leder Gris and they looked... OK.

Fark crashing in fabric boots, ankle protection or none.
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 09 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cadbury wrote:
when I was knocked off by a taxi a few weeks back I was wearing My TCX X-raps, which are only slightly more armoured than trainers:
Bit of internal ankle protection, but that's about it. No broken bones thankfully, but I did receive a bit of a bump on my inner shin, that i guess a longer boot would have protected against...

Lucky you didn't break your bones! I hope your quick recovery. I found riding shoes with protector / sneaker look at shops.

pompousporcupine wrote:
bit late now if OP has made his purchase but i have had my leg under a sliding bike and was wearing these RST leather boots.

https://www.thevisorshop.com/Images/Models/Full/18751.jpg

They have an ankle protector in which genuinely worked and the leather held up well too. A few minutes with Leder Gris and they looked... OK.

Fark crashing in fabric boots, ankle protection or none.


This one looks really cool. Didn't know there was this type of boots made by RST. I found the same one sold here too. This must be my next boots.
https://www.webike.net/sd/23216615/
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 09 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have these:
https://www.infinitymotorcycles.com/media/2563/2563.original.jpg

https://www.infinitymotorcycles.com/product/dainese-motorshoe-d-wp-shoes-blackanthracite

Which I use in summer months with my kevlar jeans and leather jacket combo. They're really comfortable, even to walk distance in, which is why I bought them. They've been water proof insofar as I've tested it, which isn't massive amounts TBH because if I know it's gonna rain I put my more heavy duty boots on instead.

However, the soles are thin and VERY soft so have worn down considerably; to the point where I don't think they'll do more than a couple of years TBH. That's pretty poor.

Protection wise they have some ankle, toe and heel protection but they don't come up high enough really, and lack any shin protection if I'm being honest. I won't buy another pair like it when these wear out.
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