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fatjames
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 09 Oct 2017    Post subject: SORN / MOT / Insurance / Winterise Reply with quote
Hi,

I haven't been riding much this for one reason or another and would like to free up some space in my garage.

I'm thinking of putting my bike into storage for the winter and wondered what precautions I need to take?

The storage is a brick built garage away from my home, within a locked compound. I'm not overly concerned with security and will be using a ground anchor.

I have no idea what I need to do about making the bike ok until next spring. I also have no idea where I stand on tax / mot etc. I can sorn the bike, but think it's a good idea to at least keep theft cover in place..?
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 09 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
stick it on paddocks

fill it with fuel

battery on optimate

job done'd
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 09 Oct 2017    Post subject: Re: SORN / MOT / Insurance / Winterise Reply with quote
fatjames wrote:
I also have no idea where I stand on tax / mot etc. I can sorn the bike, but think it's a good idea to at least keep theft cover in place..?


Tax is easy:
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-refund

MOT just runs - if it runs out before you get it back out again, first trip is to MOT station.

Insurance - search for 'laid up' cover. Depending on what you're currently paying it may not work out any cheaper / might be difficult to find anyway, these days. Don't forget if your bike goes into storage somewhere other than your home address you'll need to notify them, and that will of course incur an admin fee.
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weasley
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 09 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Why would you SORN it? Genuine question. If it is for the monies back on outstanding tax and insurance then fair enough but if not why not just keep the tax and insurance rolling?

Cost of keeping it rolling vs returns if cancelled.
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fatjames
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 09 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
weasley wrote:
Why would you SORN it? Genuine question. If it is for the monies back on outstanding tax and insurance then fair enough but if not why not just keep the tax and insurance rolling?

Cost of keeping it rolling vs returns if cancelled.


Monies was the only reason really. But I'd probably not both until insurance and tax is due for renewal. Same with MOT.

Regarding keeping the battery on a charger, I don't have power at the place. Shall I just bring the battery home and keep on charge off the bike?
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arry
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fatjames wrote:

Regarding keeping the battery on a charger, I don't have power at the place. Shall I just bring the battery home and keep on charge off the bike?


Yes, that'd be best.
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 09 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just leaving it a couple of months over winter?

Stick it in storage and forget about it, remove the battery if you must.

I rolled my old YBR out of the shed after 2 years sat in there started on the button, flew through it's MOT no issues. I'd literally just ridden it in the day I passed my test and left it there.

Bikes are not the delicate little flowers a lot of people seem to treat them as.
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Tracer1234
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 09 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
tom_e wrote:
Just leaving it a couple of months over winter?

Stick it in storage and forget about it, remove the battery if you must.

I rolled my old YBR out of the shed after 2 years sat in there started on the button, flew through it's MOT no issues. I'd literally just ridden it in the day I passed my test and left it there.

Bikes are not the delicate little flowers a lot of people seem to treat them as.


YBR is YBR though.
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linuxyeti
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 09 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Why ?? Winter in the UK, genuine cold winter, lasts about 2 weeks, is it really worth it?
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 09 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
linuxyeti wrote:
Why ??


fatjames wrote:

I haven't been riding much this for one reason or another and would like to free up some space in my garage.


I'd hazard a guess he wants some space in his garage and because he hasn't been riding much, the bike is an obvious choice of things to shift out.
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 09 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
OK, but, then the OP should also consider, is it worth the expense of keeping a bike in the first place? Perhaps it's just me, but, if I wasn't riding my bikes regularly, all year round, I'd shift them on.. Don't really see the point of having bikes, and then not riding them.
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linuxyeti wrote:
Why ?? Winter in the UK, genuine cold winter, lasts about 2 weeks, is it really worth it?


But the salt lasts about 6 months.

I'm putting my VFR away for the winter this year, keep my nice bits nice. Gonna ride the enfield and keep it good and oily.
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fatjames
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PostPosted: 09:25 - 11 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
linuxyeti wrote:
OK, but, then the OP should also consider, is it worth the expense of keeping a bike in the first place? Perhaps it's just me, but, if I wasn't riding my bikes regularly, all year round, I'd shift them on.. Don't really see the point of having bikes, and then not riding them.


This is a valid point and one that I've considered carefully. I suppose the long and short of it is that I do want the bike.

When I bought the bike, I paid a little bit too much for it and since then have put a new chain and sprockets on, a top box rack and some levers that I find comfy. (and not many miles). Financially, I won't make money selling it now (or ever) and then I'll lose out I wanted another next spring. Also, I'll spend the money if I sell it.
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I'm very much in the same situation. The amount I use my bike does not justify that much dead money sitting in my garage. If I sold it though, I would probably never get another bike, I just don't need one.

So it stays, always taxed, insured and MOTd, on an Optimate and ready to use. It costs me £90 insurance, £35? for MOT and £78 road tax. So £203 to sit there per year ready to use at any time. Stupid really as our town runaround Twingo costs that sort of money a year.
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 11 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Polarbear wrote:
I'm very much in the same situation. The amount I use my bike does not justify that much dead money sitting in my garage. If I sold it though, I would probably never get another bike, I just don't need one.

So it stays, always taxed, insured and MOTd, on an Optimate and ready to use. It costs me £90 insurance, £35? for MOT and £78 road tax. So £203 to sit there per year ready to use at any time. Stupid really as our town runaround Twingo costs that sort of money a year.


I think there is a separation between a mode of transport (Twingo) which needs to return some sort of financial efficiency and a hobby such as a bike which doesnt.

With my car, I care about what it costs me per mile as I do 25k+. It's not the bare minimum I could get away with as I want somewhere nice to sit, but its justifiable.

The bike on the other hand is over £1 a mile and I dont care, because to me its not the equivalent of the car, its the equivalent of a golf club membership, or fridays in the pub or whatever else normal people do.
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 11 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
B5234FT wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
I'm very much in the same situation. The amount I use my bike does not justify that much dead money sitting in my garage. If I sold it though, I would probably never get another bike, I just don't need one.

So it stays, always taxed, insured and MOTd, on an Optimate and ready to use. It costs me £90 insurance, £35? for MOT and £78 road tax. So £203 to sit there per year ready to use at any time. Stupid really as our town runaround Twingo costs that sort of money a year.


I think there is a separation between a mode of transport (Twingo) which needs to return some sort of financial efficiency and a hobby such as a bike which doesnt.

With my car, I care about what it costs me per mile as I do 25k+. It's not the bare minimum I could get away with as I want somewhere nice to sit, but its justifiable.

The bike on the other hand is over £1 a mile and I dont care, because to me its not the equivalent of the car, its the equivalent of a golf club membership, or fridays in the pub or whatever else normal people do.


'normal people', that made me laugh!
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