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Logically the Reg/Rec is your next point of call. Been there, done it, what a fucking job.... Good luck m8. ____________________ Honda CG125>Suzuki GT185>Honda CB 250N>Suzuki GSX400>Honda CX500B>Kawasaki GPZ305> Kawasaki GPZ550>Kawasaki GPZ500S+BMW 650GS |
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https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=295684 ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Did some more testing this evening.
I started with a cold test of the stator with a multimeter at the stator plug.
Followed the wires from the stator.
https://s1.postimg.org/93equw438r/WP_20171108_18_11_32_Pro.jpg
Up to the first connector tucked just behind the frame.
https://s1.postimg.org/9s80ewqz3v/WP_20171108_18_11_45_Pro.jpg
Took a bit of fishing out, and then, low to nil resistance when testing pins 1:2 1:3 2:3, suggesting everything's okay. Not what I was expecting.
Fired the bike up and each combo was putting out 20v ish at tickover, and 37v ish at 2500rpm.
All consistent with a working stator.
I plugged the stator back in and checked the voltage being delivered up by the reg rec. Same 20v ish 37v ish. About 12v at the battery.
Turned the bike off and checked the reg rec with a multimeter. Nothing standing out as being off.
So... I started looking at the connectors again.
Reg rec leads look okay, lots of grease and no corrosion.
https://s1.postimg.org/5ufmy8g66j/WP_20171108_18_09_47_Pro.jpg
So I have a look at the loom ones that plug into those and feel something crumble.
https://s1.postimg.org/3a9sllf4zf/WP_20171108_18_09_25_Pro.jpghttps://s1.postimg.org/206vf9wiiz/WP_20171108_8_08_18_Pro.jpg
Well I guess that needs fixing. Further googling suggests that overheating connectors and light guage wiring can cause some issues. I'm not convinced that is the cause of my problem or that I haven't spazzed my multimeter testing, but I'll start by fixing what I can clearly see is broken, and then test again.
I did consider taking the stator cover off and visually checking the windings, but with the multimeter not giving me any indication of an issue I was reluctant to pull it apart. I was also getting hungry.
The wiring will wait until the weekend when I'll pull the tank etc off and put some heavier guage stuff in from the stator to the r/r, and also after the r/r in the charging circuit. |
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Crimp on bullet connectors? I have some of those.
I replaced the original shunt r/r unit with a mosfet type a few years ago. The original r/r was still working fine, but I'd read about them being a known failure point so decided to upgrade it. Hence I have a spare r/r unit that I swapped over as a first test. I too am surprised that neither the r/r or stator isn't showing clear signs of being borked, but first I'll clean up the crispy wiring.
I just don't think it'll be that simple a fix. |
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Funnily enough mine has just shat its electrics again and I'm thinking it's the stator....again. I just need to get round to testing it with the meter but with the bairn running amok I'm not being given any opportunity to sort it
Last time mine went last year it was the same, full continuity to ground. And to be honest it's really the first test you should do as nine time out of ten that's what it is, a fried winding will ground out. I soldered the stator wires last time so I have to arse ache around desoldering and shit just to be able to bell it out.
At the moment I'm deliberating over stators, Honda can fucking do one asking 350 quid for an OEM stator. The last one was an Electrex so I think this time I'll give RM a shot. ____________________ Current bikes: '08 VFR 800 VTEC(yo) , '07 ZZR1400 Winter hack: '95 Aprilia 650 Pegaso Currently lusting after: RC30 |
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jnw010 wrote: | Did some more testing this evening.
I started with a cold test of the stator with a multimeter at the stator plug.
Followed the wires from the stator.
https://s1.postimg.org/93equw438r/WP_20171108_18_11_32_Pro.jpg
Up to the first connector tucked just behind the frame.
https://s1.postimg.org/9s80ewqz3v/WP_20171108_18_11_45_Pro.jpg
Took a bit of fishing out, and then, low to nil resistance when testing pins 1:2 1:3 2:3, suggesting everything's okay. Not what I was expecting.
Fired the bike up and each combo was putting out 20v ish at tickover, and 37v ish at 2500rpm.
All consistent with a working stator.
I plugged the stator back in and checked the voltage being delivered up by the reg rec. Same 20v ish 37v ish. About 12v at the battery.
Turned the bike off and checked the reg rec with a multimeter. Nothing standing out as being off.
So... I started looking at the connectors again.
Reg rec leads look okay, lots of grease and no corrosion.
https://s1.postimg.org/5ufmy8g66j/WP_20171108_18_09_47_Pro.jpg
So I have a look at the loom ones that plug into those and feel something crumble.
https://s1.postimg.org/3a9sllf4zf/WP_20171108_18_09_25_Pro.jpghttps://s1.postimg.org/206vf9wiiz/WP_20171108_8_08_18_Pro.jpg
Well I guess that needs fixing. Further googling suggests that overheating connectors and light guage wiring can cause some issues. I'm not convinced that is the cause of my problem or that I haven't spazzed my multimeter testing, but I'll start by fixing what I can clearly see is broken, and then test again.
I did consider taking the stator cover off and visually checking the windings, but with the multimeter not giving me any indication of an issue I was reluctant to pull it apart. I was also getting hungry.
The wiring will wait until the weekend when I'll pull the tank etc off and put some heavier guage stuff in from the stator to the r/r, and also after the r/r in the charging circuit. |
I've seen several of those melted stator loom plugs replaced with nothing more than a good choccy block connector and they all semed to work quite well. Seal the water out and they should be fine. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good |
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I was thinking choc block connector, but then thought it might look a bit too bodgy. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 169 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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