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chrisdubya
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PostPosted: 09:49 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Technique advice please? Reply with quote

Hi y'all

Following on from this thread https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=320895 last weekend I entered a Hare & Hounds event which happened to be the first round of the Scottish Championship. Because my friends were doing it and I bowed to peer pressure. Probably not the best idea after having only ridden the bike for an hour, and having never ridden anything like it before ever.

Anyway, I muddled on through and I didnt finish last!! (4th last actually).

I learned loads which was good, so it wasnt a total waste of time. This mainly included learning how to pick the bike up after dropping it - I was a master of this by the end.

Anyway, the thing I consistently struggled with was muddy ruts. The track in places went through areas which were muddy holes and got churned up and in some places the ruts were tyre tracks from 4x4's. Could I bollocks figure this out - dropped the bike virtually every single time.

So my question is - how is best to tackle this? Stand up or sit down? Fast or slow? Feet up or down? Flat out lean back and shut my eyes?

Great experience though, would do again Thumbs Up

Cheers,
Chris
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doggone
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's actually happening, is the front tyre sliding down into ruts?
Looking at picture in the other thread the tyres are only mildly off-road style.
It made huge difference to my CRF when I changed original to something more knobbly and the front was most improved.

Having said that on most lanes you are best trying to ride between the 4x4 ruts but there will always be times you end up trapped in one for a short way.
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chrisdubya
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PostPosted: 11:39 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah front end goes in, back end goes in, I flop. Was bloody difficult and everyone else was flying through but I just had no control! One of my friends did say that they're road legal enduro tyres and that they might not be the best, but to me they had nobbly bits on so should have been ok... (total novice).

So perhaps a more mud-based tyre? Any suggestions in that case?

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doggone
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are as many opinions as owners, mine has Michelin T63 I think.
Have a look on some tyres sites and see what there is in your size.

A usual it's a balance of performance versus lifespan and cost - and how serious off road you are going. For dryish conditions what you have might be good enough most of the time.
No point going too extreme then wearing them out in 3 months mainly on the road.
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stevo as b4
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably really basic stuff here,

But keep the bike driving along with the throttle open a bit. And let it go where it wants to go, so this means keeping your arms relaxed and a light grip on the bars, and not fight against its natural course, even if it wants to drop into ruts, let it.

Though different from trials, where you get to walk the course first and feel out with your boots where the ruts are deepest, where there's front wheel swallowing holes, or hidden tree roots to get in the way. You should still be able to look at the course before the start, and if there's other events first, watch some bikes go through these sections, to see where they struggle or what lines work best etc.

I'd be standing up over any slow stuff, it gives you more time to look where your going and also if you hit a big sudden rut or hole, your knees will take the shock, instead of sitting on the seat and then a sudden jolt causing you to get thrown up off the seat, before you know what's happening.
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

HOW TO RIDE IN WET TERRAIN & MUD: Cross Training Enduro Skills

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