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Posted: 18:06 - 14 Nov 2017 Post subject: Re: We are students and need some help from all of you... |
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augeo.hud wrote: | Dear motorcycle enthusiasts,
We are a group of students and motorcycle fans, working on our master thesis. The topic of our thesis is to build a business plan for the development of a Head-up-display (HUD) for motorcycle helmets.
To get a feeling about the potential market it would be an excellent support if you could answer the questionnaire which should take no more than 5 minutes. Your answers will be confidential and used only for academic purposes.
Link to survey: https://goo.gl/forms/dz3JSvv2gxjvHVvH2
As a thank-you we will draw a $25 Amazon gift card (or the local equivalent) among all participants on December 1st.
Thank you and safe rides!
P.S. Feel free to share the link with other riders! |
Already on the market ! ____________________ Beware what photos you upload, or link to on here, especially if you have family members on them |
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Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | No one is clamouring for a HUD, so a survey which aims to determine what riders want from one is pointless. It would have to be the kind of product where riders marvelled at how they ever managed without one, or it would be a dead duck. There have been several attempts...
Punt out a relatively simple and cheap version (in terms of development cost and retail price), build a "fan-base" and then expand the features to sell again, and sell to new customers. Spending years developing a Mk XIX when you've never offered a Mk I will only lead to disappointment. Rainpal take note. |
The thing is that some people might not want it. Just like I would never want an iPhone, doesn't mean that no one else wants one. I would also never want a Ferrari or Lamborghini, they only sound like a hornet nest but not like a lot of power like the Audi RS6. But there are more than enough people buying them, right?
That's the beauty of humans, each one of us has a different taste and we are not saying we are solving a problem that brings humanity the holy grail. That's why we do a lot of research.
Also we are developing a business plan according to the lean start-up method, if that tells you something, so of course this will not be a 5 year product development and then either being too late on the market or having developed something with 10 million $ development cost and at the end no one wants what we thought the product should look like, hence the survey. But you also have to look for a place in your competitive environment so simply going with cheap might not be the answer either. That's what we want to find out and that's what this questionnaire is partially answering.
So we are not some weirdos never left the house and think of developing a tooth brush with brushes on both sides when you can only use it for 1/3 of the brushing effort and it costs 5 times more and simply go to the market without any deeper thought.
Have some faith in us |
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'Engineering' is a pretty big discipline. What brand are you students in?
Personally I did pure-mech... we didn't get so many 'lets pretend' role-play exercises in that, we tended to have too much calculus to wrap our heads around, and something to twiddle with spanners, getting our hands dirty!
We usually left this sort of stuff to the 'product' engineering students, who'd usually really wanted to do art, but been told by Daddy they weren't paying for them to spend four years smoking dope and not looking out the window till after lunch....
When we did get them, we also tried to remember that they ARE just role-play-make-believe... not real.....
MAKE UP THE ANSWERS... its what we had to do before the internet was invented! And hint... make up the answers the Tutor wants/expects to get... the make believe goes a lot further than what's written in the assignment brief!
Didn't you see the disclaimer in the uni syllabus that says "any similarity to persons or events, past or present is purely co-incidence"?
But, thanks for the head's up, that it's only six weeks till Christmas.... when every damn 'engineering student' of the modern millennia, dumps surveys on the web trying to get us to do their home-work for them, when they have run out of grant-cheque, sobered up and realized they have an assignment deadline to meet! Or been rollocked for missing the last one or two!
Oh, and just out of incredibly casual interest... who had the 'HUD Idea? You, the group or was it tutor set?
Very 'push' technology, a solution looking for a problem to make!
Starting the other ways about, looking for a problem to solve... what engineering is actually supposed to be for, funnily enough; the primary purpose of a crash hat is to save your head in an accident....
In forty years, since they became mandatory motorcycle wear in the UK, the basic design of the safety helmet, has remained a polystyrene shock-absorbing basin covered with a plastic skin.... designs have changed a lot, but the construction has not, nor has the amount of impact energy they can absorb changed much...
Probably the most significant innovation to the motorcycle safety helmet has been to venting systems that 'better' keep the visor from misting up... which is probably the only thing that ca actually be sai to 'enhance' the fundemental performance of a crash hat ts ability to help stop you getting hurt....
How will your HUD help me get hurt? ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?' |
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augeo.hud wrote: | Also we are developing a business plan according to the lean start-up method, if that tells you something |
It tells me that you've got a textbook but no money.
Lean can work for software projects where the only real costs are your time and you can keep racking up more student debt that you'll never pay back.
You're building hardware though, which means you'll either need to con some mugs who actually know what they're doing into working free and gratis, or hit Kickstarter.
augeo.hud wrote: | cheap might not be the answer either. |
Of course it's not. It's a tiny market, and your startup costs are significant. You need to be charging 4 figures and getting BMW to sell them to accountants and dentists when they lease an R1200GS.
Huh, I didn't need a market survey or a degree to tell me that. What have you been spending your time and money on?
augeo.hud wrote: | Have some faith in us |
Why? What are you doing differently from all the other dreamers and scammers who have failed to bring a usable HUD to the market?
Do you know where they went wrong? You might start with that. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Full marks to the guy for actually sticking around, answering questions and so on.
Skully raised $2,446,824 USD from 1940 backers but they crashed and burned, and all their backers were left out of pocket so all that's proven is that bringing products to market is far more complicated than people first think.
Are there any examples of previous achievements that would give people a reason to have faith in you?
I do like your toothbrush idea though. |
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If that is you flipping the burger, then I guess you won't be needing me. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 152 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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