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She could at least spend a bit of that doing something with her hair. Bit more work on the eyes and we might have something there.
Blikeys?
It's the harshest word that we may still be allowed to use. I'm the respectfullmost.
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| Posted: 10:36 - 23 Nov 2017 Post subject: |
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MAG is aroused. IMMEDIATELY.
PR 2017 11 23
News from the Motorcycle Action Group (MAG) wrote: |
MAG opposes ‘disproportionate’ pillion passenger ban
This version: 2017 11 23
Embargo: IMMEDIATE
The Motorcycle Action Group (MAG) has expressed concerns about the prospect of a ban on pillion passengers in London – a proposal which has been raised to combat the scooter crime epidemic currently gripping the city.
The idea has been put forward by Green Greater London Authority member, Sian Berry who said ‘A very small number of people are causing large amounts of fear on our streets… A local safer-neighbourhood panel Chair pointed out a tactic used in some other countries: to temporarily ban the carrying of pillion passengers across whole cities.’
MAG’s London Regional representative, Tim Fawthrop, has expressed his opposition to any blanket ban: ‘As Ms Berry herself states, she isn’t sure this is right for London, and we agree. While all of us recognise the need to find solutions to the scooter mugger problem, the honest law-abiding, hard-working Londoner who takes his partner to work to cut costs and commuting time will be badly affected by this. It's not as if the criminals will obey this law amongst all the others they are breaking. The Police will be hard-pushed with current staffing levels to enforce it and that will undermine the effectiveness of all laws.’
Tim adds ‘In 2011, Honduras banned motorcycle passengers after a series of drive-by killings. In addition, a ban was imposed in Medellin, Colombia, at the height of drugs cartel violence. Are we really saying London is comparable to Honduras and Columbia? I don’t think so. While it may be legitimate to impose a passenger ban on convicted criminals, doing so on a blanket basis is a disproportionate response to the challenge we’re trying to address.’
MAG will make these points in December 2017 at the Home Office forum which has been set up to address the moped mugger problem.
Contact MAG at 01926 844 064 or central-office@mag-uk.org
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| Posted: 11:51 - 23 Nov 2017 Post subject: |
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| chris-red wrote: | Does anyone think a proper Vigilante effort would sort things out some? |
Yes, the UK Motorcycle Theft Protest group.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ukmtp/
They're forever talking and talking and talking about how someone needs to stop talking and actually do something.
Oh, lordy, there's even a poll up: "Establish network of vigilantes willing and able to do the dirty work"
Well, lead on, chaps.
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Partial credit.
Chief Constable McTargets can tell the rank and file to smash in Dindu's rear end, but it's not his job and liberty on the line if they do so.
The main problem at the the moment are the hoodie huggers at the IPCC (enumerated in posts passim) and that truly awful SJW feminazi harridan Alison Saunders at the CPS.
Coppers have been repeatedly prosecuted for giving Dindu a little nudge. AFAICT, every case (that's reached the press) has been thrown out on its ear, but that doesn't stop them from being brought, and it's a real concern for Dibble.
The vaunted independence of the judiciary and the prosecution services is a fine thing in principle. In practice, it means that they're unaccountable and can pursue their own perverted ideas of justice with little let or hindrance.
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| M.C wrote: | as far as I can tell it's officers on the ground making the call. |
Yes, and they are individually responsible for their actions.
Please remember that the police enjoy no more defences to damaging a Dindu than we would under the same circumstances, and very few blanket defences to anything else.
Recall that the Fed have advised coppers to not speed or go through red lights even in  999 shouts since that could constitute careless driving, to which they enjoy no special defence.
Ramming a lidless Dindu is almost axiomatically dangerous, right?
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Will the police start giving a f**k now? Or will it be further support for don't pursue. |
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| Posted: 19:37 - 27 Nov 2017 Post subject: |
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Predictable and predicted. Next prediction: no more solo riding for rozzers.
One might be tempted to Twaat their condolences to @MetCC but suggest that it's just part and parcel of riding in a big city. Since nobody was injured, it sounds like a matter for their insurers rather than a real crime, if it even happened.
Unless there are different rules for different riders, that is.
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Posted: 20:56 - 27 Nov 2017  Post subject: |
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Will the police start giving a f**k now? Or will it be further support for don't pursue. |
They give plenty of fucks. But there are less of them now than there have been at any point over the last 15 years, most of the clerk's have been made redundant so they need to do their work too, and the ipcc along with the media and a good deal of the public are the first to shed tears for poor innocent dindu when things go south. It's not just motorbike crime, the met is on its arse, even before you account for all the ambulance and mental health jobs they also end up dealing with because of nhs and social cuts.
Most cops in the met aren't authorised to pursue. Those that do will only be allowed to when the helicopter is available (the met alone used to have 3, now they are lucky to share one with the home counties) and if the control room feel like it. And of those most are very weary to the fact if dindu is hurt, or hurts someone else, they are fucked.
You now see this in other areas. Officers reluctant to stop drug dealers now lest he chokes on his stuff and they are the next hash tag. Stop / search and you are a racist. This country is very quickly getting the policing it wants. Blame the Tories for the cuts, Blame labour for spending all the cash, blame snowflakes for paralyzing the country's collective will to stomach the fact bad things should happen to bad people. My local force didn't turn out or follow-up any leads from two bike thefts, reason? Not enough staff. |
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| Posted: 15:25 - 28 Nov 2017 Post subject: |
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You lie, it clearly says deserving children.
Right, who's yet to commiserate @MetCC on their insurance claim? Milk this lolcow while it's still fresh. 
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