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Stylojon
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 05 Dec 2017    Post subject: Honda CB125T2 - A few bits of info Reply with quote

Hi

Bought a 1982 CB125T2 for my other half to ride

It was in a bit of a sorry state.... The usual (was rough running, smoky and would foul right hand plug on an annoyingly regular basis)

I tried to do the repair on a budget. Started off with stem seals, but skipped rings and rebore as the parts were reading on the upper side of worn, but not disasterous....and i'm out of work.

Refitted the engine and still smoked from right hand cylinder only. Popped my bore scope into the cylinder and it looked "ok".....

Anyhoo.... Decided that i'd go the whole hog in the end.

Bought a cylinder kit from AW motorcycles for £80 and fitted it

Sort of...

The drillings for the crankcase to cylinder locating dowels were off.

Take one out and it fitted.... put it back in and it wouldn't sit down flush. It wasn't the depth of the holes, it was the actual position!

In the end I went for one dowel. Not correct I know, but I marked the cylinder in relation to the crankcase in the "sweetspot" position wise and figured that 11 studs/bolts would keep her in place. Time will tell I guess.

Everything else was fine.... apart from the lack of recesses for the seals that fit around the dowels that the engine oil make their way up. There was only two enlarged holes instead of 3 as per the original parts. I must admit I was pretty sure that the top end would leak given that I was not going to be fitting any form of sealing apart from the gasket

The cylinder to head gasket was tin which worried me even more than the lack of seals. I was sure this was going to end in tears, but carried on regardless.

Well.... the old girl is back together and she is sweet as a nut. I've rechecked head nuts/bolts, reset tappets, adjusted cam chain tension, set points, new plugs and balanced carbs and to say i'm pleased is an understatement.

The engine is really good. Very quiet, starts first prod most times, idles smoothly, sounds good!

and...... NO LEAKS OR SMOKE! Hurrah!

So, for £80 i'm a happy bunny. This is a practice bike which my beloved will use for a while until she decides which "big" bike she wants to buy, so i'm not expecting to go round the world on Chinese parts, but if they do a few thousand miles without issue then i'll be a happy camper.

I'd still like to get to the bottom of why most CB125T's seem to suffer with right hand smoking far more than left hand... All I can see is that there appear to be 2 oilways up the right hand side of the engine and only one up the left. Can anyone enlighten me?

Teflon Mike.. I tried to message you, but the forum kept telling me my message was suspected spam.

Hope this helps someone in the future.

Cheers
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PostPosted: 23:38 - 05 Dec 2017    Post subject: Re: Honda CB125T2 - A few bits of info Reply with quote

Stylojon wrote:
I'd still like to get to the bottom of why most CB125T's seem to suffer with right hand smoking far more than left hand... All I can see is that there appear to be 2 oilways up the right hand side of the engine and only one up the left. Can anyone enlighten me?


I would imagine it is to do with the 180° crank and the left firing first, the heat getting to the right cylinder which then fires and gets even hotter. You could try enriching the right cylinder a little to keep the temperature down a bit.

This is based on tales of racing TRX850s sometimes needing different jetting between cylinders due to the heat build up. I know they're not very similar but the early CB125 motor is under great strain for what it is..
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PostPosted: 00:36 - 06 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

incoming Tef in 3......2.......1......
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PostPosted: 06:39 - 06 Dec 2017    Post subject: Re: Honda CB125T2 - A few bits of info Reply with quote

Stylojon wrote:
Tef-speak bla bla bla

Teflon Mike.. I tried to message you, but the forum kept telling me my message was suspected spam.

Cheers


We suspect that Teflon mike is actually a Bot account so do not expect response to PMs.

It does scan the forum for unsuspecting threads though so hang tight and do not leave your keyboard. 👍
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PostPosted: 06:43 - 06 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope you're sitting comfortably OP.
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 06 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meanwhile at Tefs house.

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PostPosted: 12:35 - 06 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fisty wrote:


I think that op is already tefers apprentice judging by the wall of text
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 06 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had exactly the same problem with the barrel kit that I bought for my CB125T2

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I have yet to delve into sorting out the situation atm due to the cylinder head needing extensive amounts of dosh to get new valve guides,valves and valve springs fitted.

But it is work in progress.Thanks for the tips Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 06 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're welcome.

They're funny little buggers, but quite good fun.
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 06 Dec 2017    Post subject: Re: Honda CB125T2 - A few bits of info Reply with quote

Stylojon wrote:
Teflon Mike.. I tried to message you, but the forum kept telling me my message was suspected spam.


I've asked specifically about this issue. There seems to be some sort of minimum level of contribution/participation that a new member has to satisfy before certain "privileges" become available to them - including e.g. sending personal messages. At any rate, unless you do something daft like post nudity or whatever, you should be able to message other BCF members once you've achieved a minimum amount of karma. That's my understanding of how the boards work atm.
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 06 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gave up after a few attempts and just got the spanners out

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