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KingKong
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 25 Dec 2017    Post subject: C00 Reply with quote

Hi & Merry Christmas

Have a k4 gixxer 6 since Oct and seemed to be fine. Yesterday turned it on and sw 'c00' displayed - no idea what it means. Looked it up online and all i could understand is that it means 'no codes' maybe no error; but it still displays. Had a power commander and aftermarket can in case that's relevant.

Any ideas what the code means? The FI light does not come on.
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 25 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the problem and does the fuel pump prime or makes a noise when switching on?
Also has it displayed a CHEC code?
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 25 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaffa90 wrote:
What is the problem and does the fuel pump prime or makes a noise when switching on?
Also has it displayed a CHEC code?


Hi, thanks.

It all seems normal, but for the displayed "C00"; nothing extra displayed.
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 25 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick google indicates it's something to do with the throttle position sensor.

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C00 means there is NO bad FI code listed in the system, and everything is ok. the - however is in the wrong position. yours is up top, the correct placement is in the middle, just flickering to the upper top part but not staying on the top part of the C. the - designates the TPS setting.

https://www.gixxer.com/forums/241-gsx-r600-gsx-r750-general-forum/311501-07-600-reads-fi-code-coo.html
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 25 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
A quick google indicates it's something to do with the throttle position sensor.

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C00 means there is NO bad FI code listed in the system, and everything is ok. the - however is in the wrong position. yours is up top, the correct placement is in the middle, just flickering to the upper top part but not staying on the top part of the C. the - designates the TPS setting.

https://www.gixxer.com/forums/241-gsx-r600-gsx-r750-general-forum/311501-07-600-reads-fi-code-coo.html


Thanks.

I noticed this in my search results but am not very savvy. Seems like a right ball ache. What causes this and does it need immediate attention, or can I use the bike between now and Friday when I take it to a mechanic to sort whilst I get its MOT renewed?
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 25 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a common problem with many suzuki's that the TPS will get out of alignment. A common symptom is the secondary throttle valve actuator will make a lot of noise as it cant find correct position. It is also common that the secondary throttle shafts can rust and seize. I fixed both problems on a DL650, 2008 I think it was.

Get access to the throttles, check everthing moves freely, then adjust the TPS position while turning the key on and off until any bad noise/codes disapear. When the bike is turned on it will seek the full range of the tps, so should make some noise.
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 25 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

kramdra wrote:
Its a common problem with many suzuki's that the TPS will get out of alignment. A common symptom is the secondary throttle valve actuator will make a lot of noise as it cant find correct position. It is also common that the secondary throttle shafts can rust and seize. I fixed both problems on a DL650, 2008 I think it was.

Get access to the throttles, check everthing moves freely, then adjust the TPS position while turning the key on and off until any bad noise/codes disapear. When the bike is turned on it will seek the full range of the tps, so should make some noise.


What a bummer. Not something I trust my judgement with so will take to my mechanic. Fuckarries.

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PostPosted: 23:15 - 25 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

C00 means no fault on the bike. Check under the seat to see if someone has done the paperclip trick or fitted a dealer switch to bridge the wires in the connector block which allows the bike to be put into dealer mode. If that has been done and you turn the bike ignition on with the killswitch off it will display a C code.

Did you start it up? Has the killswitch been knocked? Check the obvious first before fretting about throttle positions. Did you have the FI light on previously and its now gone? They don’t display codes by themselves without being put in dealer mode first.
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 25 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

waffles wrote:
C00 means no fault on the bike. Check under the seat to see if someone has done the paperclip trick or fitted a dealer switch to bridge the wires in the connector block which allows the bike to be put into dealer mode. If that has been done and you turn the bike ignition on with the killswitch off it will display a C code.

Did you start it up? Has the killswitch been knocked? Check the obvious first before fretting about throttle positions. Did you have the FI light on previously and its now gone? They don’t display codes by themselves without being put in dealer mode first.


Cheers.

FI light was never on. I didn't set anything to come on either, just start and ride as usual.
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PostPosted: 03:49 - 26 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it safe to ride before resolving in a few days?
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 26 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ride a bike thats telling you it doesn’t have a problem? Yes, but I would find out why it was showing you the C00 code when you apparently haven’t taken any of the steps to get it to show one.

When it does display this, what position is the minus sign before it?
-C00 is normal.
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 26 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

presuming it still starts

when my tps went tits up on a Yamaha I had it cost just under a grand to have sorted
also fucked the starter motor as well (that was a design fault with the model)
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 26 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

waffles wrote:
Ride a bike thats telling you it doesn’t have a problem? Yes, but I would find out why it was showing you the C00 code when you apparently haven’t taken any of the steps to get it to show one.

When it does display this, what position is the minus sign before it?
-C00 is normal.


Alternates between mid and upper section.
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 26 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disconnect the Power Commander and then see where the minus is. I fitted a PCV on my k6 which was fine until it started cutting out at traffic lights and being very lumpy. I put it in dealer mode and the minus symbol was in the upper position, removing the PCV put it back in the middle and no more issues.

Start eliminating easy to fix stuff first.
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 26 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

waffles wrote:
Disconnect the Power Commander and then see where the minus is.


I just went to give this a try, but first started the bike to see if the C00 was still showing and, alas, it was gone and display was back to normal without needing me to try the PC. I really don't get it. Mind of its own.

Power commanders usually more problematic than beneficial?
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 26 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

They can be if not correctly set up for your bike. It needs to have an appropriate map for your bike, model, year and exhaust for a start! Ideally take it somewhere that can set it up for you rather than downloading one from the PC website. I thought mine was good but apparently it was the root cause of my issues.

Good news that the code has gone, keep an eye on it though.
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PostPosted: 15:54 - 26 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

waffles wrote:
They can be if not correctly set up for your bike. It needs to have an appropriate map for your bike, model, year and exhaust for a start! Ideally take it somewhere that can set it up for you rather than downloading one from the PC website. I thought mine was good but apparently it was the root cause of my issues.

Good news that the code has gone, keep an eye on it though.


That's pretty sound advice; no idea what the previous owner did or how. Will get it checked.

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