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panrider_uk wrote: | I'd not commute for that long on a regular basis.
To me, time is more important than more money.
I don't know how London commuters can stand it. |
Ahh, now you see, that depends on the commute, granted, alot of the time, if I want to save time, then it's motorway, however, on nice weather days,I'll quite often take detour on the way home, take a more scenic route, at times, an very long winded way home ____________________ Beware what photos you upload, or link to on here, especially if you have family members on them |
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Would not do it.
Ultimately it's not the financial cost of commuting or the boredom of driving so much (although both are significant) but the time lost.
50+ hours per month sat in a car on my own, unpaid. 2 full days per month of my life. Nope. ____________________ Bikers make great organ donors - add your name to the register
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I used to commute between Old St, in East Central London and Hitchin in Hertfordshite.
A1M, M25, A10. Come rain or shine, or snow!
I hated it. Knackered my bike, knackered me, knackered my evenings.
I have to disagree with 'switching off'. It's very easy to stop paying attention. It's also very easy to fall asleep on a motorbike - trust me!
Whatever you think your running costs, double it. I'd also add an extra hour a day to allow for 'unscheduled' stops. Traffic, accidents etc. ____________________ Like a Yorkie - I'm not for the girls |
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I did 45 miles each way for ~2 years on possibly the worst A Road in the South East for most of it, going into one of the most congested towns in the whole of the county. I mixed it up with the bike over summer, but it isn't a very nice ride and despite there being a scenic route I just want to get to work, and get home again so it rarely interested me enough to take it.
What I liked:
1) My car my space, at least I didn't have to listen to other people's inane train conversations.
2) The freedom that when you're done in work, you have the car there and can go off somewhere that you'd otherwise not have taken the drive to; for example I used the opportunity to visit family and friends that were closer to where I was working than where I was living.
What I hated:
1) Increased wear and tear on the car was huge, being used heavily in all seasons, for a lot of miles just for work let alone private miles. It took sticking on top of.
2) Every time it rained - guaranteed an accident, guaranteed a delay.
3) The stupidity of other drivers really, really grates on you after a while - so much so that I'd got used to regularly undertaking, going into 'wrong' lanes to cut corners, forcing openings etc, and didn't feel the slightest bit guilty about doing it. It was going to lead to a conviction or an accident at some point; rage levels raging.
4) Having to leave at ridiculous-o-clock to avoid the traffic and then sit in the office for 45 minutes before you'd see a soul. Leaving at 6:40 I could do the journey in 45 minutes ish; leaving at 7:10 it would take me an hour and a quarter. On the way home I either left at 4:45 or 6:15 - anything in between those times may as well not bother, it'd take you longer to get out of town than it would to do the rest of the 40 miles down the dual carriageway.
5) Absolutely no plan B. Well there is, but everyone else is taking it, and it's just as nightmarish. Means when you absolutely positively have to be somewhere after work, you can't be certain you'll actually make it.
I wouldn't do it again. Too stressful, too expensive (I reckon I save ~£250 a month nowadays getting back on the train into London all told) and not a lot of fun. |
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If you decide to do it, download waze to help route you via the less constipated passages.
Download audio books and podcasts.
See if your employer will let you work from home one day per week.
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I've done it. It's shit. Commuted 54 miles each way last year to work for a temporary placement job. Did it for 14 months.
Takes about 1hr10 on a good day, but you can't guarantee it won't take 2 hrs, so you have to leave 2 hrs before you need to arrive (or at least do what I did and work out that you have a 90% confidence of it taking 1hr40 or less and accept you'll be late 10% of the time and yes, I did have a spreadsheet to track that, I'm that anal.)
Anyway, it's shit. Car insurance'll jump, it's about £60 a week in fuel, a service every 4months or so and accepting that you're 'working' every day from 7.15 till 7.00 (for a nominal 9-5). Also totally ruined the fun of biking for me towards the end (I used the bike as much as possible to commute and the last thing I wanted to do on a weekend was do another 100 miles on the bike, so jollies ceased).
Worth noting, as I have said before, a 40hr a week job is 2000hrs a year to draw your salary. Doing a 3 hour round trip commute sticks another 750 hours on top of that for free. Purely mathematically, you need to stick 37.5% on top of your base salary to make the same hourly rate.
For what it's worth I've now got a permanent position with the same company. I'm gonna rent. It's actually only about £150/month more than fuel, insurance and consumables (yes, its a cheap place to live) and to save 750hrs/year? That's a bargain. ____________________ CBT Acquired: 09/07/2015
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owl10 wrote: | Its actually not far from you Stevo, im just north of bristol and the new place would be just south west of worcester. |
I'm guessing say somewhere like Malvern or Tewkesbury then? And if your north Bristol that's maybe like Filton area? It's still realistically all M5 motorway everyday, and your entirely dependant on it being good traffic conditions, so no bad weather, fog or accidents or roadworks. Too many variables that'll be more often than not stacked against you for 45-50miles twice a day
This week I've been using the M42 and it's been totally fucked twice and crawling at best 3days out of 4. If it's raining or icy or foggy then as well as the normal morning congestion that sees it slow to a crawl at every junction, they'll be an accident, debris in the road or a huge tailback in the managed motorway section.
Do you really want to endure that kind of hassle daily, and as Arry said roll the dice on how long the commute might take as a guess?
Oh and I've done Worcester to Gloucester city centre a few times last year as a morning commute, and that's still 45min on a clear good day. If the M5 gets fucked up (usually around the M50 junction) it's easily an hour and a half on the A38 sat in the traffic trying to avoid the motorway.
I might do a short stint or a temporary agreed duration gig in the summer months with such a commute, but it'd have to be worth it money wise.
I use company vehicles with fuel paid for, but even then it's bloody nasty to be spending hours a day travelling instead of working. Our firm would arrange local digs for the workers if it's for any length of time, as it's a waste of money paying for diesel and overtime when no more work can get done to show for it.
If your self funding your proposed commute and it's 4-5days a week I'd say forget it unless your going to be earning silly money? |
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Up to a year ago I was doing North Bristol to Taunton. 60 miles each way. Hour or so. Did it for 4 years, fully expensed.
Got used to it reasonably quickly, but I used to leave at 7 to allow for delays, used to get home at 6. When it was just me and the missus, no problem. I now have two little girls and I rarely got to see them.
I now work about 20 miles away just one junction up the M5, commute is 35 minute, I can leave at 8:10 to get in for 8:45. I can now make and eat breakfast with my girls and my life is a lot more contented.
I could definitely do the long commute again, but once the kids have grown up.
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Eh, I commuted from West Birmingham to East London for a few months. Not something I'd recommend, but it does rather put all of these 'one hour commuting so sooo miserable' comments in their place a bit. I'm currently in the running for a job in Coventry, which takes around an hour to get to and it's what I've seen of the job that making me think twice about it, not the commute time. ____________________ '10 SV650SF, '83 GS650GT (it lives!), Questionable DIY dash project, 3D Printer project, Lasercutter project |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 106 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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