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orac wrote: | maybe you should stop looking for the answer in maths, and look for it physics, theoretical physics.
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No it's a pure maths problem.
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Please can you show me the equation that proves infinity does not equal zero then I will admit defeat. |
You can do it with set theory. It also gives an interesting result which you might like.
Set theory puts things into sets and compares them with other sets. For example you could have a set "S" of numbers like S={1,4,5,3,6,4}.
For the current discussion, start with the set of everything and label it ∞.
Then we can say ∞ = {the universe}
Now another definition in set theory is the empty set, which is labelled ∅.
And we say ∅ = {}
That is, it's a set with absolutely nothing in it.
So now by simple comparison you can see the following:
{} ≠ {the universe}
This is quite obvious. Therefore:
∅ ≠ ∞
or in layman's terms:
0 ≠ ∞
So there's your proof.
The interesting thing is this: Set theory, by logical definition, states that since ∅ is a set of absolutely nothing, it is perfectly rational to say that ∅ exists in every set of objects ever, because if you add ∅ to that set, the set doesn't change, thus ∅ can be in any set, including the infinite set. Hence you could argue that everywhere you go, there will always be some amount of ∅ nearby.
But this does not mean ∅ = ∞. That can't be correct because if ∅ = ∞, then ∞={}, which is wrong because it contradicts our starting definition where we said ∞={the entire universe}. |
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Lord Percy wrote: | orac wrote: | maybe you should stop looking for the answer in maths, and look for it physics, theoretical physics.
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No it's a pure maths problem.
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Please can you show me the equation that proves infinity does not equal zero then I will admit defeat. |
You can do it with set theory. It also gives an interesting result which you might like.
Set theory puts things into sets and compares them with other sets. For example you could have a set "S" of numbers like S={1,4,5,3,6,4}.
For the current discussion, start with the set of everything and label it ∞.
Then we can say ∞ = {the universe}
Now another definition in set theory is the empty set, which is labelled ∅.
And we say ∅ = {}
That is, it's a set with absolutely nothing in it.
So now by simple comparison you can see the following:
{} ≠ {the universe}
This is quite obvious. Therefore:
∅ ≠ ∞
or in layman's terms:
0 ≠ ∞
So there's your proof.
The interesting thing is this: Set theory, by logical definition, states that since ∅ is a set of absolutely nothing, it is perfectly rational to say that ∅ exists in every set of objects ever, because if you add ∅ to that set, the set doesn't change, thus ∅ can be in any set, including the infinite set. Hence you could argue that everywhere you go, there will always be some amount of ∅ nearby.
But this does not mean ∅ = ∞. That can't be correct because if ∅ = ∞, then ∞={}, which is wrong because it contradicts our starting definition where we said ∞={the entire universe}. |
Thanks for taking the time, let's see if I can get my head around it, I'll get back to you after my trip to trip in Amsterdam. Are you coming? |
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I do believe that you are correct Lord Percy. I will now hang up my boots on this one I think.
I'm happy with your explanation, thanks for taking the time to put my mind at rest mate. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 91 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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