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| asta1 wrote: | | adengtg wrote: |
Well, i was wanting to get it asap. i was expecting to order around £1500 worth of gear. Get geared offers up to 24 months 0% interest finance with 10% deposit. |
£1,500?? You must be joking. Here's an alternative for you. You have a cheap 125 which I assume you need to commute on. You need reasonable warm, waterproof kit to do up to 60mph for reasonably short periods of time.
The solution therefore, is to take the £150 which you were going to use as a deposit, save another £100 over the next couple months and use that cash to buy the whole lot cash in hand. Sounds like you already have a helmet at least, so £150-200 for a set of second hand textiles, some decent army surplus boots and a decent set of gloves is by no means impossible.
I picked up an A* andes jacket and trousers off ebay for £180 delivered. Hardly worn. I commuted all last year in that kit, 3 hour round trip, motorway and A road, summer and winter. More than good enough for the job you need it to do. Another £50 for goretex lined gloves, £30 for some milsurp boots and a decent jumper and you should be laughing. Maybe £300 max.
Taking out finance to spend £1500 on brand new kit when you are 18 and 'cant afford a varadero' is nothing short of stupidity. So there. |
Well, i can buy a varadero if i were to sell my current bike, easily. Just not until around april
why is spending that much on kit a bad idea? isnt safety important? this will be kit for the next 5+years. I am horizontally gifted so finding 2nd hand gear is difficult. £1500 is alot yes as i picked the higher end gear to last as long as possible. i did pick a helmet that was £400 but i wouldnt really buy that as im bound to come off a few more times. My current gear is a £50 kevlar hoodie which is falling apart already, £15 gloves which are almost useless at this point, a £50 helmet which ive already taken a fall on(not much head impact or i wouldnt have kept it) and £30 textile trousers. |
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| Posted: 03:23 - 03 Mar 2018 Post subject: |
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Well, i can buy a varadero if i were to sell my current bike, easily. Just not until around april
why is spending that much on kit a bad idea? isnt safety important? this will be kit for the next 5+years. I am horizontally gifted so finding 2nd hand gear is difficult. £1500 is alot yes as i picked the higher end gear to last as long as possible. i did pick a helmet that was £400 but i wouldnt really buy that as im bound to come off a few more times. My current gear is a £50 kevlar hoodie which is falling apart already, £15 gloves which are almost useless at this point, a £50 helmet which ive already taken a fall on(not much head impact or i wouldnt have kept it) and £30 textile trousers. |
Safety is important, sure, but once you get into mid range and above kit, it's all much of a muchness.
Expensive kit will possibly be a bit more comfortable in terms of breathability and waterproofness, but for the use you're using it for? You probably wouldn't notice.
Higher price dosn't guarantee it'll last any better either, again, buy any good quality brand and it'll last 5years+ of 'normal' commuter duties no bother. Might be a different matter if you were a courier or going on a big tour where you'd be wearing it day in, day out for 8 hours, but for a 'standard' commute of say 45mins and playtime in the summer on weekends? Not worth it.
Worth considering as well, that if you fall of the bike, you'll need to replace the helmet, doesn't matter if it's a £50 one or a £500 one, it's a single use item (in theory at least). Same for the clothing, fall of in £1500 of kit and you're just as likely to tear a sleeve or wear the knee out the trousers as you would in £300 worth.
As always, it's a balance between cost and functionality, but really, if you need a loan to buy what are effectvely 'expendable' items, then you need to think about cheaper stuff.
My advice would be, if you really can't find stuff second hand due to your dimensions, then write down the features your jacket needs for your use, say waterproof textiles with knee and shoulder protection, option to fit a back protector, fleece or thermal lining for winter, decent venting for summer, well respected brand, then go to J&S and see what they have.
Try stuff on, see what fits, then come back nd ask about specific items to see what the consensus is. Then go online and buy the cheapest kit that fits the bill. Call it £400, job jobbed. You'll end up buying more kit over the years anyway, no point scratching up pretty new kit in the early days.
Of course, it's your money and you'll do whatever you want irrespective of what I say, but all I'm saying is, when you're sat there in 18 months time, still paying off your gear, which by now no longer looks so shiny and new, or may even be a write off, are you really gonna feel that you got good value for your money? Especially when that could be £1000 in your pocket towards an A2 bike?
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| Posted: 03:50 - 03 Mar 2018 Post subject: |
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| asta1 wrote: | | adengtg wrote: |
Well, i can buy a varadero if i were to sell my current bike, easily. Just not until around april
why is spending that much on kit a bad idea? isnt safety important? this will be kit for the next 5+years. I am horizontally gifted so finding 2nd hand gear is difficult. £1500 is alot yes as i picked the higher end gear to last as long as possible. i did pick a helmet that was £400 but i wouldnt really buy that as im bound to come off a few more times. My current gear is a £50 kevlar hoodie which is falling apart already, £15 gloves which are almost useless at this point, a £50 helmet which ive already taken a fall on(not much head impact or i wouldnt have kept it) and £30 textile trousers. |
Safety is important, sure, but once you get into mid range and above kit, it's all much of a muchness.
Expensive kit will possibly be a bit more comfortable in terms of breathability and waterproofness, but for the use you're using it for? You probably wouldn't notice.
Higher price dosn't guarantee it'll last any better either, again, buy any good quality brand and it'll last 5years+ of 'normal' commuter duties no bother. Might be a different matter if you were a courier or going on a big tour where you'd be wearing it day in, day out for 8 hours, but for a 'standard' commute of say 45mins and playtime in the summer on weekends? Not worth it.
Worth considering as well, that if you fall of the bike, you'll need to replace the helmet, doesn't matter if it's a £50 one or a £500 one, it's a single use item (in theory at least). Same for the clothing, fall of in £1500 of kit and you're just as likely to tear a sleeve or wear the knee out the trousers as you would in £300 worth.
As always, it's a balance between cost and functionality, but really, if you need a loan to buy what are effectvely 'expendable' items, then you need to think about cheaper stuff.
My advice would be, if you really can't find stuff second hand due to your dimensions, then write down the features your jacket needs for your use, say waterproof textiles with knee and shoulder protection, option to fit a back protector, fleece or thermal lining for winter, decent venting for summer, well respected brand, then go to J&S and see what they have.
Try stuff on, see what fits, then come back nd ask about specific items to see what the consensus is. Then go online and buy the cheapest kit that fits the bill. Call it £400, job jobbed. You'll end up buying more kit over the years anyway, no point scratching up pretty new kit in the early days.
Of course, it's your money and you'll do whatever you want irrespective of what I say, but all I'm saying is, when you're sat there in 18 months time, still paying off your gear, which by now no longer looks so shiny and new, or may even be a write off, are you really gonna feel that you got good value for your money? Especially when that could be £1000 in your pocket towards an A2 bike? |
True, ill try to half what i originally set out at least. Thanks for the help |
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I watched some-one chuck a bike in a Fiat whatever it was 'van' once; slap down the side stand and start wamping in the ratchets...
"Its not getting any tighter!" he moaned......
No... but the side of the van's getting a lot more banana shaped!
Stand left a nice neat hole in the floor too.... he was offered a bit of ply-wood....
Maybe it was just 'cos it was a Fiat.......
But I wouldn't bet on it!
BEWARE the ratchet strap... they are very good at letting you ratchet up very very big tensile forces.... not always helpfully!
Used to cart trials-bikes to meets every-week, I have been stunned at just how 'weak' many habitually strap down bikes in the back... they really don't need a huge amount of tying down, just enough to make the suspension squash about as much as it would with the rider on it, not flat to the bump stops... while the side-to side support is far more important.... I have seen precious race bikes carted across the rough Irish sea in rusty old tyranny vans, strapped down with little more than bailer-twine, but 'wedged' in place with an old mattress to stop them rocking side to side.... and come home again!
As to the pod filter.... lol!
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